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Hello all.

I'm new here. I've heard good things about thsi site and am hoping that someone might know the answer to my question or direct me to someone who does.

I've been trying to breed Flying geckos for about a year now. I've gotten two seperate pairs to mate and lay eggs multiple times, but each tiem the eggs die after appearing to develope normally for several weeks. I'm beginning to think that it might be possible that I have a male of one species and a female of another. Most likely these two would be Ptychozoon kuhli and Ptychozoon lionatum.

My question is this: Does anyone know a good way to tell these two species apart? I've looked all over the net, but have not been able to find any good information.

Thanks!

(Here's a picture of one of my females)

the one you have in the picture is a ptychozoon kuhlii.th main way to distinguish the two is by the shape of the tail.an origanal tail on a p.kuhlii lacks latteral serrations toward the tip or the tail.also p.lionatum are usually a lighter color than kuhlii.also how are you incubating the eggs.
nick

The small amount of documentaion I've read has said to leave the eggs where they are and incubate at regular cage temp. I was misting three times a day as well.

Hello-

I placed a link at the bottom of this post that leads to the gecko database that I have created. The answers that you are seeking are on that page. As far as the eggs not hatching because of being crosses, I highly doubt. If you weren't able to cross the species, the eggs wouldn't be good. They wouldn't be good and then go bad, they just all together wouldn't be good from the second they were laid. Are you misting the eggs directly or getting them wet at all? Perhaps providing too much himidity in the cage?

Let me know if you have any more questions regarding Ptychozoon.

- Alejandro -
Gecko Database: Ptychozoon lionotum

Actually the animal in the picture is P.lionatum.The best way to tell the two apart is that lionatum has no tubercals(bumps on the skin)and P.kuhli does.also the tail info previously mentioned is incorrect.The tail lappets on kuhli are at right angles on the tail and lionatum is pointed back slightly as in the photo.luckily your animal has an original tail.Usually they do not,that is why the tubercals are the safest route.Are you certain they are a pair?Flying geckos are easy to breed so don't give up.
Jay

www.jaysommersreptiles.com

Thanks for the replies! This is helping a lot.

As for the tubricles, All of my flyers have them, but on a couple they're so small you have to really look to see them.

Maybe a few more pictures will help. Here's one of Isis, one of the females. The lapets on the tail appear to be pointing slightly backwards, which would suggest P.lionotum. Correct? This gecko is also -extremely- more aggressive than every other one I've raised. It bites anything that comes near it. Overall I've noticed more aggression in females than males for whatever reason.

As for the picture in my last post. I always tought it was a khuli. I've read that the flaps on the arms do not connect to the hand webbing on lionotum. Is that true?