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help please

iceyesnteeth Aug 19, 2005 09:23 PM

ok so im still looking for a replacement chondro for my escapee.iv tried the usual classifides(wont name them out of fear of this post being deleted)all i seem to be able to find in the way of sub adults-adults are pretty bland looking(all greens)or arus.im looking for a sorong type or one that looks that way.light green with blue dorsal stripe.anyone have a suggestion on where i can go to find this type??i dont want to raise up another hatchling(too depressing).im not against farmed animals,my last 2 were from bushmaster and i had no problems.i dont want wild caught but farmed imports would be fine considering i dont have a lot of money to spend.so,besides all the obvious places to look,anyone know of a breeder or dealer that doesnt advertise much that i might have missed?i tried bushmaster(my pricerange) but all they currently have are biaks)and wont be getting in anything new untill october.and even then only neonates.it seems to me when bushmaster is out,then there are no more cheaper chondros.are they really the cheapest?its not that im looking for dirt cheap,but like i said i have had no problems with their farmed animals and they do turn out a lot prettier than many of the blander looking domestics going for 1000.so any suggestions on another supplier selling lower end animals i may have missed?

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MegF Aug 19, 2005 10:16 PM

E-mailed you a message.
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

iceyesnteeth Aug 20, 2005 10:35 AM

hey thanks for responding but i didnt get your email.i think the one here is a dead account so please send your reply to manakawari@yahoo.com now im really curious what you have to say"keeping fingers crossed"-james

MegF Aug 20, 2005 09:50 PM

Sent you another e-mail to the address you posted. Talk to you soon.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

Bodhisdad Aug 20, 2005 07:00 AM

>>ok so im still looking for a replacement chondro for my escapee.iv tried the usual classifides(wont name them out of fear of this post being deleted)all i seem to be able to find in the way of sub adults-adults are pretty bland looking(all greens)or arus.im looking for a sorong type or one that looks that way.light green with blue dorsal stripe.anyone have a suggestion on where i can go to find this type??i dont want to raise up another hatchling(too depressing).im not against farmed animals,my last 2 were from bushmaster and i had no problems.i dont want wild caught but farmed imports would be fine considering i dont have a lot of money to spend.so,besides all the obvious places to look,anyone know of a breeder or dealer that doesnt advertise much that i might have missed?i tried bushmaster(my pricerange) but all they currently have are biaks)and wont be getting in anything new untill october.and even then only neonates.it seems to me when bushmaster is out,then there are no more cheaper chondros.are they really the cheapest?its not that im looking for dirt cheap,but like i said i have had no problems with their farmed animals and they do turn out a lot prettier than many of the blander looking domestics going for 1000.so any suggestions on another supplier selling lower end animals i may have missed?

Why so unresponsive towards Biaks. I would say they are the most under rated of the chondros. I've had my Biak for over a year and since then i've watched him go from burgandy to rust to orange to yellow & green w/ some black outlining his dorsal tri angles. The prolonged and dramatic color change is interesting if not sometimes frustrating as i would like to see the end result. The only time he skips a meal is pre-shed. He handles very well, never with any aggresion. My cb. sorong on the other hand was purchased last sept. dob. 5/21/04 He was suppoesedly an established feeder. It has been a year of hard work/patience to get this little guy to become an established feeder. I can say for certain that a chondro who won't eat is a real bummer. The only good point is that he has been raised up slowly, is near 15 months old and hasn't started his color change yet. There is no guaranty he will be one of those high contrast, text book emerald and eye popping blue sorongs, although my fingers are crossed. Those sorong types are the exception and not the rule. Try not to get to caught up in the label/locale thing. The most important thing is that he is healthy and feeding from tongs consistently. If he is pre-otogenic, i would consider that a plus as you can be a part of the change, that and ytou never know what they will end up looking like. That is very exciting. Considering that you do not want a run of the mill drab green chondro, i would develop a relationship with one of the breeders and see if you can work out a payment plan. You can get a very fine cb chondro for $800-$1200. With this route you could end up with a high end chondro after the color change the Biak out crosses have been producing some exceptional looking snakes. I hope this was of some help to you, its just another route one can go in this hobby. Goodluck, Clint
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0.1 Colombian Boa-(Boa Constrictor Imperator) "Honey"
1.0 Hogg Isle Boa-(Boa Constrictor Imperator) "peeker"
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa-(Epicrates Cenchria) "Houdini"
1.1 Argentine Boa-(Boa Constrictor Occidentalis) "Lacie" & "Oreo"
0.0.2 Green Tree Python-(Morelia Viridis)Biak type-"Smog" & Sorong type- "un-named"

iceyesnteeth Aug 20, 2005 12:33 PM

its not that im against biaks,if youre into high yellow snakes,then they are great.im just not a huge fan of the yellow tinted biaks.many think they are really nice looking while changing.they take many years to change and during that time they still look neonate yellow with patches of green poking through.this is the attraction for many but for me,well they just look dirty.i dont know how else to explain it.my favorite are the mainland types,light green with strong blue dorsal stripes.to tell you the truth,id rather have(and i do)in my collection,a really nice contrasty sorong,than an expensive almost 100 percent blue designer.in my opinion,even the high blues still look very green,or at the very best a greenish blue and you need the true green in there to contrast with the blue for you to really notice the blue.now dont get me wrong,there are many really blue nearly 100 percent high blue designers but they are very rare and most of the "hight blue"animals i have seen sold look green/blue.anyway,just my opinion and im sticking to it..ha ha ,,,,biaks are really my least favorite in color,not to mention they could use a lesson or two in manners.someone needs to tell them its not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.well that said im still looking for an animal of this type.anyone??

Bodhisdad Aug 20, 2005 12:59 PM

>>its not that im against biaks,if youre into high yellow snakes,then they are great.im just not a huge fan of the yellow tinted biaks.many think they are really nice looking while changing.they take many years to change and during that time they still look neonate yellow with patches of green poking through.this is the attraction for many but for me,well they just look dirty.i dont know how else to explain it.my favorite are the mainland types,light green with strong blue dorsal stripes.to tell you the truth,id rather have(and i do)in my collection,a really nice contrasty sorong,than an expensive almost 100 percent blue designer.in my opinion,even the high blues still look very green,or at the very best a greenish blue and you need the true green in there to contrast with the blue for you to really notice the blue.now dont get me wrong,there are many really blue nearly 100 percent high blue designers but they are very rare and most of the "hight blue"animals i have seen sold look green/blue.anyway,just my opinion and im sticking to it..ha ha ,,,,biaks are really my least favorite in color,not to mention they could use a lesson or two in manners.someone needs to tell them its not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you.well that said im still looking for an animal of this type.anyone??

Our taste in chondros run along the same lines. There are few chondros in my opinion that rival a high contrast blue and green Sorong. My little sorong really had me stressed for awhile, although the worst is behind us now. After going through the feeding thing with him, i would prefer a well established feeder over a good looking one. Goodluck in your quest, Clint
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0.1 Colombian Boa-(Boa Constrictor Imperator) "Honey"
1.0 Hogg Isle Boa-(Boa Constrictor Imperator) "peeker"
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa-(Epicrates Cenchria) "Houdini"
1.1 Argentine Boa-(Boa Constrictor Occidentalis) "Lacie" & "Oreo"
0.0.2 Green Tree Python-(Morelia Viridis)Biak type-"Smog" & Sorong type- "un-named"

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