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Question on Nigrita & Gaigeae

Steve_Craig Aug 21, 2005 01:50 PM

I know there's quite a few on here that have Mexican Black Kings, and I've had some in the past myself. My question is, does anyone keep both Mexican Black Kings and Black Milks? Or at one time or another, has worked with both? I'm getting ready to purchase a Gaigeae, and was curious if the black coloration is a little different with these guys then with nigrita? From what I understand you get more of a black/purple/indigo color with Gaigeae then with Nigrita. Of course I'm buying an 05 so I'll have to wait a while for the complete change from a
tri-color hatchling into a shiny black adult, but I'm looking foward to working with one of these animals. Thanks in advance.

Steve

Replies (5)

rearfang Aug 21, 2005 02:34 PM

To me the Gaige have a darker and more glossy black than nigritus. The scales are also bumpier (an adaptation to a cooler climate-more surface to expose to the sun).

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Steve_Craig Aug 21, 2005 09:04 PM

Thanks Frank, I thought that's what I had read before about these guys. Didn't know about the bumpier scales. That's very interesting.

Steve

mexicanamak Aug 21, 2005 03:04 PM

I've had both in the past, and have another jumbo young nigrita male growing up here now. The tendency for gaigeae to develop a higher gloss in most cases I believe is why they appear to have better colors to their irridescence... more black/purple/indigo color as you described, and it is pretty striking. A really nice Mexican Black can have a much better overall black saturation from what I've seen and if you get one of the nice shiny ones, I think they can look just as striking as any Black Milk, some even better just not quite as big. The underlying skin color on a Black Milk is in most cases also much lighter than a Mexican Black, sometimes giving them a less saturated appearance. You can see that noticeably lighter color in the bends of their body as they move and bend around. Also, not every one of them turn completely black and may show a hint of pattern somewhere. Cool to watch the ontogenetic change to black as they mature though, and you need to be ready to offer them a lot to eat... they eat like pigs, grow fast and get quite large as I am sure you already know. Their behavior is great also, very cool in that respect... very alert, active and pleasant to handle, not as much of a bite reflex out of the desire to eat everything in site as is the case with most nigrita. Nigrita don't really seem to care who it is that has ahold of them, if they are the least bit hungry they will have a nibble at ya. Especially males from my experience, and unlike everything else I raise, I have generally fed my male Mexican Blacks all they can eat and they still look for a place to get a taste of me.

Mike

Steve_Craig Aug 21, 2005 08:58 PM

That was very interesting information about the two species. I believe with Nigrita, you have to be careful when looking for one, especially when buying online. Many of them that are supposed to be solid jet black have a bit of brownish color when shown in the sun. Or sometimes some will have white speckling under the dorsal area.
I know Gaigeae are larger then nigrita, but how do they compare in size and amount of food required, to a large Eastern or Florida King? I already have a whopper of a brooks king that's around 34-36 inchs and he's only an 04. Anyway, thanks for that bit of info. I have kept many Kings for years, and now I'm just starting to explore the world of milks. The only one I own at the present time is a Mexican Milk. And what wonderful snakes annulata are. I love them.
Steve

rearfang Aug 22, 2005 06:32 AM

My actual keeping experience with gaige was only one specimen and it's appetite was nowhere in the leauge of the hundreds of Brooks an and Floridas I have kept.

To my experience with the other milks (I have kept lots of Honduran and other CA milks)I have kept they usually do not have the appetite of the chain kings (though doubtless there are exceptions on both sides.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

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