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Okay, I work in a pet store and we had a 'problem child' traded to us. It is a yellow/light orange/mustard all over Uro, nearly a foot long and when I got him home (for dire TLC) he/she weighed 75 grams. We call it Road Kill because I truly didn't think it would live.
I hit it with panacur and that helped a good deal. It kicked into appetite and actually caring about it's area. I have it with a 140 hot spot and mid 80s ambient. It is still in a hospital tank on newspaper. When I fess up and admit to myself that I will keep it I will set it up in bigger and better. Right now I would love any input you can offer to get weight on. (Like how often and many doses of Panacur and anything else?)
I am feeding a variety of green leafys (similar to my iguana diets)
What would you set it up in for substrate?
Decided tricks of the trade or any great sites. I am experienced with herps but not at all with Uros.
And best of all....what species is it?? I haven't found definitive descriptions....or best, for my weak old brain, pictures.
If picts would help you all just let me know as I can do some.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

Standard drug doses are available here:
http://www.anapsid.org/resources/rxdose.html

Geyri are the most common that fit that description (yellow/orange) but there are a number of species that it could conceivably be. Posting pictures would help for sure, soem breeders like www.deerfernfarms.com have some nice photos of the various species.

If it's just turned around and started eating, I'd tend not to change anything significantly. Being on paper won't hurt it, just make sure there's a hiding space and something to "play" on like a log or two.
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2.3.0 uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian)
0.0.4 uromastyx hardwickii (Indian)
3.6.0 uromastyx macfadyeni (Somalian)
1.2.0 uromastyx ocellata (Sudanese)
1.3.0 uromastyx ornata (Ornate)
1.0.0 uromastyx benti pseudophilbyi

As of this picture he/she is up to 99grams.

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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

I can't really say from that... it doesn't look like anything I keep. Maybe someone else will have an idea. Tail and belly pics are occasionally helpful for ID as well.
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2.3.0 uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian)
0.0.4 uromastyx hardwickii (Indian)
3.6.0 uromastyx macfadyeni (Somalian)
1.2.0 uromastyx ocellata (Sudanese)
1.3.0 uromastyx ornata (Ornate)
1.0.0 uromastyx benti pseudophilbyi

>>I can't really say from that... it doesn't look like anything I keep. Maybe someone else will have an idea. Tail and belly pics are occasionally helpful for ID as well.

Well, his belly is basically white with tiny flecks, a scale here, a scale there, of yellow. He does have a few bits of orange on his back and head amongst the dingy yellow. He is brighter sometimes.

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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

After seeing the new pics I feel certain it is an egyptian. And after seeing the condition of it's tail I see you have your work cut out for you. The tail is where they store fat and yours has nothing stored. I know it's sometimes a controversial point but I would suggest as small water dish. If it needs to drink it will. I would also keep a dish of food in it's cage at all times so whenever the urge to feed strikes, it can.

>>After seeing the new pics I feel certain it is an egyptian. And after seeing the condition of it's tail I see you have your work cut out for you. The tail is where they store fat and yours has nothing stored. I know it's sometimes a controversial point but I would suggest as small water dish. If it needs to drink it will. I would also keep a dish of food in it's cage at all times so whenever the urge to feed strikes, it can.

Thanks. I have a water dish in there and I try to keep the food full. Though I do let him empty it before adding new. But he is eating three or four mounds (covering a tea saucer a couple inches deep) a day. Yeah, I really didn't think this one was gonna live. Doing better every day now.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

Looks like a female saharan uro(U.Geyri)in need of some fattening up to me. Nice colour!
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1.1 U.maliensis
2.1 U.geyri
1.1 U ornatus
0.1 U. macfadyeni

That looks like a female Saharan to me, the tail,color,and size is what makes me think so

I have never seen a picture of an Egyptian that coloring, or exact head shape... but I am by no means an expert in identification either. What I do know is that it is awfully lucky to have found you! Good Luck with your new friend and welcome to the forum!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

welcome to the forum sonya! i'm not sure what it is. i think it's too yellow to be an egyptian although i've seen some pics of yellow egyptians (microlepis). i'm not sure if it's a yellow saharan either because all the ones i've seen have yellow but also some black mixed in with it.... yours has a pretty uniform yellow.
anyway, it's a good sign if it's eating. i agree, give it vitamins and calcium. did you get it checked for worms?
tristan

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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)
1.0 Argentine Black and White Tegu (Roy)

If it is it will eventually get fairly large.
I would skip the panacur and try to get weight on it without medication. Offer peas, green beans and lentils to start. These should help put on weight.
Keep it on newspaper right now. It will allow you to keep the cage clean easier. Also you can see the stool better. Make sure it is formed and not runny. It will be wet (eating the moist greens) but should be a solid.
How is it's appetite?

If he's eating, let him do so and don't suppliment the meds. Get him eating the normal diet that he should be on. If he's already up 24 grams, you're on the right track.
He does look like a yellow geyri, but the coloring is "off". I haven't really seen juvy egyptians that color, but you never know.
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2.1 - Rocky, Runako, and RoxyIII (my care sheets)

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>>If he's eating, let him do so and don't suppliment the meds. Get him eating the normal diet that he should be on. If he's already up 24 grams, you're on the right track.
>>He does look like a yellow geyri, but the coloring is "off". I haven't really seen juvy egyptians that color, but you never know.
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>>2.1 - Rocky, Runako, and RoxyIII (my care sheets)
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What color would he/she be? I am totally inexperienced with what they look like or how big they get. Thanks btw for all the help so far everyone.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

>>What color would he/she be? I am totally inexperienced with what they look like or how big they get. Thanks btw for all the help so far everyone.

If it's a geyri, a yellow male. Also, you make mention of collards, hale, and romaine in the diet. I've always read that collards and kale are something that should be fed in very limited amounts. In fact this is from Deer Fern Farms:

"Do NOT feed spinach, beet greens, Swiss chard, or cabbage, and limit broccoli, kale and collard greens."

-Jim
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2.1 - Rocky, Runako, and RoxyIII (my care sheets)

>>>>What color would he/she be? I am totally inexperienced with what they look like or how big they get. Thanks btw for all the help so far everyone.
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>>If it's a geyri, a yellow male. Also, you make mention of collards, hale, and romaine in the diet. I've always read that collards and kale are something that should be fed in very limited amounts. In fact this is from Deer Fern Farms:
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>>"Do NOT feed spinach, beet greens, Swiss chard, or cabbage, and limit broccoli, kale and collard greens."
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>>-Jim

Thanks, I had gone to Deerfarm and printed this all out. I had originally based her (someone suggests it is a girl) diet on the diet my iguana has had and many rescued igs have eaten for 10yrs. I am reassessing that now. She is still refusing peas and a most other foods. She doesn't seem to eat alfalfa pellets which is always good food for an ig. So I am off to the grocery today for other foods on the list.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

>>If it is it will eventually get fairly large.
>>I would skip the panacur and try to get weight on it without medication. Offer peas, green beans and lentils to start. These should help put on weight.
>>Keep it on newspaper right now. It will allow you to keep the cage clean easier. Also you can see the stool better. Make sure it is formed and not runny. It will be wet (eating the moist greens) but should be a solid.
>>How is it's appetite?

It eats kale, collards, romaine and dandelion greens. It for the most part avoids green beans, peas and I haven't tried lentils yet...but will. I did catch it eating a pea yesterday so hopefully we will work more into it's diet. It is getting better every day, so something is going right.
And it's stools are well formed and not runny....like a heathy gex or beardie looks. Before the panacur it STUNK! No it isn't nearly as bad.
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Sonya

Haven't we warned you about tampering with the structure of a chaotic system?
Mrs. Neutron

The egyptian is the least colorful of all the uromastyx species, being shades of soft yellow to tan to brown. Of course, like all uros, it's color is better when it's hot.
My first uromastyx was an egyptian I got back in 1995. She would only eat green beans until spring came and she started taking dandelions. Very picky eater. Do try the lentils, my mali's have been munching them all morning.
If you'd like to see pics and get more info, go to the Deer Fern Farms link at the top of this forum.

Nice to have you , and NO question is considered STUPID here, if you need an answer people here will try there best to help you put !

Looks like a saharan / yellow to me, just my thoughts, ehehheeheh !

CUTE pic
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