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Bearded Dragon & Mali Uromastyx

onaga Aug 25, 2005 03:13 PM

I was woundering how big of a tank or cage i would need to house a Mali Uromastyx and a Bearded dragon both about 2 yrs old , the Mali is about 8inchs and the beareded is about 13 inchs , if they would not be ok in a tank together at all please tell me , i have them seprete right now, but this is just a thought to see if i could save space and put them together since they have the same needs

Replies (5)

WillHayward Aug 25, 2005 08:30 PM

It's a bad idea, so I hope if you're doing it, you will quickly make alternative arrangements. All bearded dragons are thought to carry coccidia. Susan L., a veterinarian, pointed out that coccidia are protozoans and very annoying ones, at that. "Many animals have their own kind(s) and they cause diarrhea etc, and of course they are very contagious." I guess that's a good thing since virii are so much more difficult to treat. Thanks, Susan!

Coccidia is the biggy but you can also add that a uro's tail can easily put out an eye on a dragon. Beardies usually bite at the base of the tail when showing aggressive behavior. There are several other reasons too, like the basking temp ranges (bearides from 95 to 100°) with studies showing that 113° ambient air temps proving fatal to more than 50% of the adult test subjects in a 1 hour period, while others suffered neurological problems from over heating and had to be put down. As with most species, mixing lizards from different geographical locations is just asking for trouble!

-Quoted From:
Gecko’s Mali Uromastyx Care Page v2.8

UroJade Aug 26, 2005 06:23 AM

they would not be ok together. as stated in the other post your dragon could give the Uro coccidia which its normal low amounts in beardies. you have to watch out for the tail which could easily injure the beardie.
The dont have the same requirments, Uromastyx need tempertures that arnt safe for bearded dragons. My Beardies like to be misted but Uros have to be kept dry
Beardies eat greens and insects, Uros a veggiterians.

riiotgrrl Aug 29, 2005 08:17 PM

also, In more cases than not, animals of different species will stress eachother to the point of compromising their immune systrems, there fore allowing protozoans and infection to take hold. If my bearded even SEES my iguana, she freaks out and tries to attack her....even though my ig is 10x her size. Mixing species is NEVER a good plan. Listen to these posts, and it will save your wallet and your animals.-jen
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"Brains for dinner, brains for lunch. Brains for breakfast, brains for brunch. Brains for every single meal; why can't we have some GUTS?"-Misfits

1.0 ball python- Azazel
1.0 red blood python-Hiss
1.0 peach phase thayeri-Sancho
0.1 creamsicle corn- Pandora
0.1 partial stripe ghost corn- Raven
1.0 Sunglow motley corn-Ernie
1.1 hognose- Pricilla and Odd
0.2 leos- Boji and Kodama
0.1 beardie- Indie
1.0 BTS- Griffon
0.1 Iggy- Sunny
0.1 pacific parrolet- Mishka
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Willhayward Aug 31, 2005 01:50 PM

Jen, thank you for the back up, but I have to disagree with your comment about "NEVER" mixing species.

In the case of Dragons and Uros, it would not work because they are from substantially different places and have different requirements.

Although...

With delicate care and consideration, time and effort, resources and research, community vivariums have been created and housed many species together very hapily. I would not suggest it for begginers, but if a herpist had the drive and commitment to do it, I would encourage them.

In the future I plan on doing this and I did much reasearch into how to do it correctly. However, I opted to postpone any thoughts about setting one up until I became familiar with each individual species I may be including in the community, before they were put together. Next week I will begin this task by picking up a pair of Chameleons.

riiotgrrl Sep 01, 2005 07:19 PM

it theoretically IS do-able...
but, the enclosures have to be quite large to accomidate for territoies. Vivs with mixed species CAN work, but i have found that it is a difficult thing. Anoles, house geckos and treefrogs (green, maybe grey) have been the most sucessful in mixing, but they are smaller, more tollerant species. In my honest opioion, the larger the animal, the more territorial and less tolerant of other species they become. (that is in my opion tho). I do have to admit, when i was younger and more foolish i did mix an african plated with anoles and tree frogs. I dont suggest doing that......
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"Brains for dinner, brains for lunch. Brains for breakfast, brains for brunch. Brains for every single meal; why can't we have some GUTS?"-Misfits

1.0 ball python- Azazel
1.0 red blood python-Hiss
1.0 peach phase thayeri-Sancho......MIA
0.1 creamsicle corn- Pandora
0.1 partial stripe ghost corn- Raven
1.0 Sunglow motley corn-Ernie
1.1 hognose- Pricilla and Odd
0.2 leos- Boji and Kodama
0.1 beardie- Indie
1.0 BTS- Griffon
0.1 Iggy- Sunny
0.0.1 crested
0.1 leucistic texas ratsnake
0.1 pacific parrolet- Mishka
1.1 cats- Cairo and Oberon
2.0 bettas
0.0.1 goldfish-fishwad

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