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the_keeper_73 Sep 01, 2005 06:02 PM

With all the talk of laws and bans on reptiles, I would like to ask the reptile community, what would you consider to be a fair law taking into consideration public health and safety vs. the rights of the keepers? I know we all would like to say, no regulations, but unfortunately, since many people don't seem to take responsibility for themselves (nobody on this board of course ), this leaves it up to the gov't to protect the public, though usually with great bias and lack of education in most situations.

I'll start this discussion with what I think is good.
As far as non-venomous animals are concerned, I think only the largest species of pythons (retics, burms, african rocks maybe, amethystines, any that could exceed say 15'), Anacondas, and crocodilians would be of any concern. There should be written provisions for safe and efficient caging/housing and perhaps regulations on how a large reptile is to be handled if ever in a public venue. These are animals that I would say should require a permit to keep.
As far as venomous animals are concerned, again there should be some regulations regarding sufficient, escape-proof caging and handling outside of the primary residence. Perhaps maybe even a test of some sort (Not to be written by gov't officials) to help establish knowledge and/or competency in keeping hots. This would all be to protect the public from those yahoo’s out there that like to show off and be stupid. One thing I am sick of in any regulations, are those that are supposed to protect you from yourself. As an adult, one should already know the risks of performing certain activities and if you kill yourself in the process, then it should be written off as Darwinism in action. But I don’t believe that the general public should ever be put at risk if someone wants to do themselves in, hence...regulations.

There is a reason behind me asking this question. Our current county ordinances are very outdated and flawed, and I would like to bring forward a concise and well written alternative that could be fair for all involved: the general public, the keepers, and the governing agencies.

Any and all thoughts and opinions are welcomed. Since many entities like to take off of surrounding ordinances, let’s not see if we can come up with something fair that can be widely distributed to city’s, counties, and states everywhere, when the time is right of course.

Replies (2)

worldsocold Sep 02, 2005 04:07 PM

With all respect to the public people, most of the people that are afraid of snakes its because there ignorant. The gov't Protects these people with idiotic laws with no real reason behind them. Ignorance is not bliss. Why not just Educate the people so it takes away the fear? Without the fear there would be LESS problems with the general Herp Community and the General public. Fear Is normally ignorance towards something, see ignorance isn't bliss it just Hinders people. Personally I just wish Someone like Ralph Davis, Bob Clark Etc, Would go to the congressmen and give them like $100,000 grand and tell them to keep snakes legal, thats the only Way I see it working in our backwards country.
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Pat
1.1 (100% het albino) Retics
1.1 Coastal Carpet Pythons

UAWPrez Sep 17, 2005 11:29 PM

I have two Jungle Carpet Pythons and have been concerned that they will get caught up in some kind of legislation. I've heard of places regulating snakes that have to the potential of getting 8'or larger. Well, JCP's don't have the body weight to be a dangerous snake and they don't usually get that long, but females can, so there are lots of details that I'm sure will be overlooked in any laws painted with a broad brush. I do like the educating the public idea instead of passing legislation.
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