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TRIBLONOTUS GRACILLUS -red eye armored skink?

sleepofapples Sep 02, 2005 12:21 PM

i am not sure if this is even in the skink family.. i am interested in purchasing one and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them.. the first questions is.. does anyone know of a reputable dealer that has these.. ive only seen them on a couple of sites... also.. are they relatively easy to care for, as in.. do i need to worry about buying a wild caught and having it die as soon as i get it? as far as i know.. these are all wild caught, no one is breeding them yet. . um... and if anyone has any general advice regarding these adorable lizards..?

here is what they look like.. i know the common name is inconsistant for these guys..

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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

Replies (6)

pah Sep 03, 2005 09:27 PM

Yep..it's a skink..do some google reasearch on it before you decide. There's too much info to post it all here and I found some good care sheets for it online. They are not too hard to take care of but more than I wanted to do...

If you can get one depends on where you are. I recently went to a pet show and two dealers had one but they didnt bring it with them.
They were around the 80 dollar mark.

I wanted one, but once I found out they are not that easy to care for I declined. I already have 6 lizards and 3 snakes.

Check with www.LLLreptile.com they might have one or know where to get it...

Good luck..they are great little skinks...

casichelydia Sep 03, 2005 11:55 PM

This species is indeed always sold as imported. Acclimation can be difficult - make sure you want to work with the species, and get ready for the purchase price to be doubled or tripled by a qualified vet, since imports will at least need a fecal and, potentially, treatment for excess protozoa or similar parasites exacerbated by the rigors of shipping.

Since this species will not tolerate the onslaught of importation for an insatiable pet market forever, you might consider purchasing multiple animals to bring together once established for the purpose of breeding. I recall an article published multiple years ago by Reptiles discussing the species' reproduction at what I believe was the San Antonio Zoo (?).

Mark M. Lucas is a reputable seller listed here on kingsnake. He tends to have access to these guys directly imported, and that is the trick - to get them as fresh off the ship as possible since they will often need immediate professional attention.

sleepofapples Sep 04, 2005 05:40 AM

hm... maybe ill wait a while on these.. i have read a bit online but nothing about acclimation for wild caught specimens.. we had one at the petstore i used to work at .. i almost bought him but he never seemed to eat.. so i decided to wait until i could find out about obtaining a CB one.. or at least one that would eat... thanks for the info! very helpful..
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

Lizarddude720 Sep 04, 2005 09:26 PM

Hey

Ive been doing research on these guys for years you could go down and look for 1 of my posts about their care. The 1 person who said get a couple for a groups thats ok but it dosent really matter. As soon as u get 1 take it to the vet to have it checked out. If your looking for a CB good luck there are a couple but there not easy to find. So just get 1 or 2 to start out with and take them to the vet and you should be find. Care is simple like i said look for my post. Just follow what the the people say and you should be ok.

Big P

sabol25 Oct 05, 2005 05:13 PM

i think their a great skink, but stress is a killer with these guys... and cb are not that common do to the low reproductive rate.. 3 eggs per year.
below i am posting my care sheet.. below e-mail if you have any questions..
Underworldreptileshotmail.com

thanks sorry for all the typos:

Natural History: Crocodile skinks or Red Eye Armour Skinks are found
mainly
> on the northern parts Irain Jaya and Papua, New Guinea. These skinks are
> usually found scurrying around the undergrowth of the forest floor, mainly
> located near a water source.
>
> Physical Description: Croc skinks are a small, shy, stocky bodied skink
that
> ranges in size about 3.5-4 inches for snout to vent length, with a total a
> size of about 7 inches. The body of Croc skink is usally a dark brown to
> flat black in color. Croc skinks have a bright orange circle running
around
> the diameter of its eyes, that develops with age (hatching croc skinks do
> not have these rings). Head and body of this animal reminder me of a toy
> dinosaur, or medieval dragon. The head is in a shape of a triangle with
head
> having heavily keeled scale to the rear of the skull. These keeled scales
> continue down the back of animal in 4 rows until reaching about half way
> down the tail. Croc skinks as have the ability to vocalize when disturbed
or
> restrained. More often I have seen this in freshly wild caught animals and
> hatchings.
>
> Housing requirements: I believe that single Crocodile skink can be
> comfortably house in a ten gallon glass aquarium, but 20 longs are a lot
> nicer. For Pairs and trios highly recommend at least a 20 long or higher.
> From my own personal observation I believe that a lot of vertical height
is
> not considered necessary. The cage temperatures for Croc skinks should be
> maintain at around 80° F in the daytime to 70°F in the nighttime. When the
> temp rises above 85 °F the animals in my collection seem to exhibit some
> signs of stress. For lighting full spectrum lighting dose not seem to be
> need ( cool florescent bulbs are all I use) as long animal's diet is
> properly supplemented. Basking light's are also optional, if using a
basking
> light use a lower wattage bulb (20 watts or below). For substrate I
prefer
> a shredded coconut fibers at a depth of 3-4 inches ( Bed a Beast )( ratio
of
> Bed a Beast I use is 1 brick for every 10 gallons of tank space), but I
> believe any good moisture holding material would work just fine.(examples
> clean top soil, peat moss, and shaguphm moss). The cage should be spot
> cleaned off with substrate being changed once every 2 to 4 weeks.
> Croc skinks like to borrow, so I avoid putting any plants in the cage to
the
> destruction that I have seen in the past. As mentioned up above Croc
skinks
> are shy animals, so to reduce unneeded stress ( especially in the first
few
> days of acclimation) try placing a slab of cork bark lying
> flat on the ground. If you don't have cork bark try using a opaque plastic
> lid or deli container. The Croc skink(s) will most likely make a nice hid
> out for themselves were they will feel safe.
>
> Water Requirements: In captivity Croc Skinks appear to be very good
> swimmers, so at minimum I like to provide my animals with at least enough
> water to fully sub merge their entire body. (Take care when working with
> hatchings and juveniles to avoid drowning). If you have the ability to
make
> the cage 1/3 to ¼ water go for it, but it gets messy quick with fecal
> material and substrate. The method that I found works best is a flat
bottom
> bowl that obtains a depth about 2 to 3 inches. Recessing the bowl into the
> substrate provides easy access for adults to enter. ( clear plant saucers
> 6-8 inches in diameter are my favorite to use, they can be found at many
> garden supply stores). In conjunction with supplying a fresh clean water
> source, I mist my Croc skinks once a day just to keep the substrate damp
not
> soaked..
>
> Food Requirements: The main staple of Croc skinks in captivity is gut
> loaded crickets. The size of the cricket will depend on the age of the
> animal, from pinheads for hatchings to ¾ inch crickets for adults. Feeding
> should be done once to every other day, again it depends on the activity
> level and stage of life.. Younger the animal the more often. I highly
> recommend dusting the prey insects with a D3 multivitamin, three times a
> week for adults and daily for hatchings.
> Other food items that Croc skinks seem to love is wax worms and butter
> worms. Wax worms and butter worms are great for getting reluctant animals
to
> eat.
>
> Reproduction / Sexual Maturity: Males can be determined from females by
> looking at the rear feet. Males will have a series of planter pores on the
> third and fourth toes that appear grayish in color, for younger animals
this
> can be a little difficult. Not much is know about the reproductive habits
of
> the Crocodile skinks but, from my own account the courtship ritual
contains
> a series of head bobs displayed by the male, and then male grasping the
> female by the nape of the neck then sliding his tail beneath the females.
> I'll let you fill in the rest of the blanks, for what happens next. After
> successful courtship has occurred the female will deposit one leather egg
> (gestation time for the egg seems to take anywhere from 30 to 60 days
> depending on the health of the animal). The egg is about 1 to 1.2 inches
> long with a diameter of about ½ inch. The egg's of the Croc skink seem to
be
> able to handle pretty damp conditions, so to incubate them I use shedder
> coconut fiber. The incubation temp found in most articles and has work
well
> for me in the past is 75 to 78º Fahrenheit for an average of about 70
days..
> After the first egg Hatches be on the look out for another egg, Females
seem
> to lay the following egg about same time that first one is hatching. Croc
> Skinks usually have a clutch size of about 3 eggs per season..

Flavia Guimaraes Oct 17, 2005 10:46 PM

The croc that i have now is WC. He is my first croc (i bought him from a pet dealer in a PET EXPO), he wasnt in a great shape when i bought him but in spite of that, he never had a health problem.I can tell you that they are VERY easy to raise.Just like leo geckos.If you have a leo gecko or if you had one just prepare the same cage and food and temp for the croc skink.The only difference is that croc skinks need a bowl of water that is at least 50% the size of the cage.The water must be changed at least 2 times a week because they are messy.Clean water is also important because they spend great part of their time inside the water bowl.Put some plastic plants in the bowl of water to make easy for him to go in and out.They are very sweet, the sweetest of them all but very scared too.Mine still doesnt like to be handled.By the way i LOVE sallies!

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