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I just recieved this amel male on the left a few days ago from a good friend along with several other super nice animals.Its a tangerine albino male thats possible hybino?Well,Putting him in along side my nice tangerine albino male you can see that he is much different looking and I would bet the farm that next year I prove him out to be hybino.He has that look to him and you can tell that he is very pale looking and isn't in the blue either.

Anyways,I will let you all know if he proves out.

Shannon

Hi Shannon, sorry i missed your call. we'll catch up eventually.

Here's a picture of the male i "proved" to be a hybino (the pale one) alongside the brighter one i tested two years ago and proved to be het/hypo but not homozygous.

I say I "proved" the pale one to be a hybino because test-breeding is a matter of degree: I bred him X two hypo females and got 16 babies, ALL of which are hypos. I THINK the odds of that happening by chance (if he were only a het) are around 1 in 60,000, like throwing heads on a coin 16 times in a row (Shasheena, are you reading this? can you set us straight on the odds?)

So that's 16 data points saying he IS a hybino. But there's always the very remote chance the 17th--or the 117th--could be a non-hypo, proving he's NOT. So i think it's reasonable to say he's proven a hybino, but literally, that can never be said as a result of test breeding. We can DISprove things with absolute certainty, and we can prove an animal is het with absolute certainty, but we can't prove an animal to be homozygous with absolute certainty, not in these circumstances anyway.

So...is yours? Well, my experiment only proves this one pale example is a hybino. It doesn't prove another pale one is. But it gives us some support for the hypothesis presented earlier this year, i.e., pale=hybino. And i guess the hypothesis was actually formulated earlier, since i held back two pale examples in 2004 (i'll post pix of them in this thread).

At any rate, i'll be hoping yours proves to be a hybino.

peace
terry

Yours is a splitting image of mine.I will bet just about anything that he proves out next year.

Anyways,I am pretty sure that they have a look to them for sure but we can't go by that alone thats for sure.

I have a adult female thats also 50% possible het and she also has the look and she will be on line next year so I will test her as well.

I will try and call you on Tuesday again we need to talk,

Shannon

>>I say I "proved" the pale one to be a hybino because test-breeding is a matter of degree: I bred him X two hypo females and got 16 babies, ALL of which are hypos. I THINK the odds of that happening by chance (if he were only a het) are around 1 in 60,000, like throwing heads on a coin 16 times in a row (Shasheena, are you reading this? can you set us straight on the odds?)

Your odds or even better than 1/60,000. Its more like 1/65,573. This, statistically atleast, is so damn significant that you can sure say it is a hybino.

Cheers,
Vinny
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here's a female pinstriped pale tangerine albino i held back last year.

terry

that picture Terry,What other bones are in your closed?

Shannon

here's the pale male i held back last year. I hatched a few more this year.

terry

very nice,I would say thats a shoe in for a hybino right there.
Shannon