on almost every herping hike I find more than one together under stuff..Sometimes as many as five or six snakes together..I usually find more groups then singles..These are mostly ringnecks and garters but Ive found those little fivelined snakes together on occasion as well...
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Just a Q...Why all the fuss about keeping snakes seperate when
cee4
Sep 04, 2005 06:19 PM
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goini04
Sep 04, 2005 07:54 PM
While at a given moment, you might see a Rat snake and a Rattlesnake in the same location, they ultimately would prefer different care and different temps etc. It is easier to do this when they are housed separately. Other snakes such as Kingsnakes will eat other snakes. Furthermore, there are health issues to be concerned about. If one snake has a certain illness that you are unaware of it can be passed to the snake it is housed with.
Hope this helps,
Chris
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Chris Law
U.A.P.P.E.A.L. (Uniting a Proactive Primate and Exotic Animal League)
Herpetoculture Element Representative
Hotshot
Sep 04, 2005 08:01 PM
Thats because the ringnecks and garters tend to be a communal snake. Multiple female ringnecks even lay eggs in the same spot!!
The large colubrids are not a communal snake, the only time you will find them together are for mating purposes.
The cons far outweigh the pros for keeping multiple snakes in the same enclosure. That horse has been beat to death on here!
Brian
>>on almost every herping hike I find more than one together under stuff..Sometimes as many as five or six snakes together..I usually find more groups then singles..These are mostly ringnecks and garters but Ive found those little fivelined snakes together on occasion as well...
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RATS
2.0 Corn snakes "Warpath" & "Thunderbird" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Great plains rat snake "Reign Fire" (TX locale)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)
RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)
KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit" & "Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.1 Prairie king snakes "Bishop" & "Askani" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.1 Desert Kingsnakes "Gambit" & "Psylocke"
0.1 Florida Kingsnake "Shard"
MILKS
1.0 Eastern/red Milk intergrade "Cable" (KY locale)
1.0 Eastern/Red Milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
BULLS/GOPHERS/PINES
0.1 Sonoran Gopher "Husk"
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian
BobS
Sep 05, 2005 01:18 PM
Many of us have and do keep snakes together. Singly is easier and has it's advantages as stated.
Brian, apparently snakes like Lampropeltis are communal. Check out the Kingsnake Forum (FRs posts) and I think you'll see your ideas challenged. Bob Applegate has been breeding many subs for years in common cages and so have a lot of folks. One of the nice things about keeping some animals together is that if you are maintaining a display terr. with shy animals, you are more likely to see your charges out occassionally.
Bob.
