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As far as I know/knew paradox is just that. I was quite sure no one has proven it genetic. So why are people selling them as such? One person keeps advertising paradox linage... so what... a normal from an albino line is still, and will always be normal. Am I missing something here?

Ben
American Tropics

and "Het Albino."

Not "Het Paradox Albino."

Clear it up a bit?
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Ryan Farris

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Yah the one on kingsnake does, but one breeder is selling an albino het for paradox, and is charging a premium for it... I have zero respect for breeders who do this sort of thing. Its really desceiving. The same breeder sells pinstripe siblings for a hansome price.

Are there really that many fools out there??? If so I have some possible ocean front property for sale in Colorado they might be interested in. Some day it may prove to be ocean front...

Ben
American Tropics

paradox hasnt been proven yet and i hope to prove it out this coming breeding season... i got 1.2 albino het paradox from vpi line of paradox. tracy breed her male paradox to albino female.
out three eggs was 1.2. that was in 2003... and ralph davis
breed his albino paradox to and albino and got the samething.

as far as the one say if you get a normal from a albino its just a normal is wrong its a HET...
SO IF YOU BREED A PARADOX TO A ALBINO ALL THE BABIES ARE ALBINO HET PARADOX... IF IT IS GENETIC. SO I HOPE TO PROVE IT OUT BUT FOR NOW THE ONES I HAVE FOR SQLE 50% HETS

So even you admit they are not proven thus far, but you sell them as het for it? I am not seeing the logic. I just am not seeing how you can sell something as genetic that has never been proven genetic. Perhaps if those selling them said from the paradox line or poss genetic paradox. You dont even know if its recessive. Thats just a guess.

I understand a normal looking snake from an albino breeding is het. I said from an albino line, really meaning from a het to het or het to normal.

Its not in what you are selling, its how you are selling them. You seem to have a nice collection, but what person in their right mind would spend thousands of dollars on missrepresented animals. Next year this conversation may be moot. Next year we all may have flying cars, but you shouldnt start selling the flying cars until we know they are going to exsist.

So long as you are responding (Redneck Reptiles), whats with selling the normal ball pythons marketed as pinstripe siblings for huge prices? Do you know something about these that no one else does? Or are you just selling real estate on the moon? Sure they may be pinstripe siblings, but so what?? Another well known site has an entire threed about your pinstripe siblings, so no need to go in to detail here.

The point of all of this is not if paradox will be genetic, or if pinstripes have some hidden recessive traits.... but rather the character of the breeder. If you cant trust what he is selling and how he is marketing it what can you trust?

I would however like modify my first post in saying that I see no problem what so ever with anyone saying they are from the paradox line... right up until the genetics are proven one way or the other. I know many breeders have encountered paradox albinos and are trying to prove them, and I wish them luck... they are really neat.

Ben
American Tropics

After thinking for a while I realize you (Redneck Reptiles) might be a little mad at me. I have nothing against you personally, and you may be an awsome guy/gal, but my first impression is not very good. No harm is ment really!!! By the way, I have no idea what your name is, its not on your website or your post.

Thanks,
Ben
American Tropics

There is a sucker born everyday. I love it when people respond to posts to defend themselves and the response is filled with typos.