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hi i was wondering what everyone thought of the black mexican kingsnakes as pets and as a first time breeding project? are they pretty decent snakes? or are they hi strung like some of the cal kings? also i was thinking of buying a pair to breed? would this be a good breeding project or should i try something different? thnx all for any help
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

I picked up a 1.2 in "04". They are a little flighty not bad and mine dont crap in my hands. Nice snake to work with.
Russ

flighty as in, they strike at you all the time? or hide all the time? just trying to find out as much info on em as i can before i purchase some thnx
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

Mine were never agressive. as babies they would jump out of my hands but not now. I think a lot better pet then cal kings. I got a 2.2 of cal kings and they still crap in my hands!!
Good luck........russ

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N.P.

yeah i know how you feel! my cal king still craps, but i have only had him for about3-4 months!! i took him out today and i swear he was in a crappy mood, was going to take some pics but he kept trying to tag me, anyways so thats why i was thinking on the blacks, was hoping they were pretty calm and etc. thnx again

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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

In my opinion, Mexican Black kings are one of the best getula you could own. They are up there with Easterns & brooks in my book. I believe on average MBK's as babies are more calm and less likly to musk then cal kings, but keep in mind all snakes are individuals. I've had several MBK's the years, and they have all been a joy to keep, including my five foot plus monster I have now. Good luck.

Steve

hi i was wondering what everyone thought of the black mexican kingsnakes as pets and as a first time breeding project? are they pretty decent snakes? or are they hi strung like some of the cal kings? also i was thinking of buying a pair to breed? would this be a good breeding project or should i try something different? thnx all for any help

yeah, i expect the musking a little, but not evry single time for the rest of its life you know! your monster mbk is awsome, do you know if jhon cherry has any mbk left? thnx
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

I'm not sure what John has left. I'd email him and see if he has any 05's or adults available. Good luck.

Steve

"yeah, i expect the musking a little, but not evry single time for the rest of its life you know! your monster mbk is awsome, do you know if jhon cherry has any mbk left? thnx"

I have kept them for years now and they were one of the first I succesfully bred back when I "got back into" snakes. I often refer to them as bulletproof. I have never had one refuse to eat well (some others have),or thrive in captivity, and they breed well. My adults are VERY agressive feeders. With frequent handling they calm easy and are very docile in my experience.
I was surprised that I brought any home with me this year from Daytona. Usually they are gone quickly.
:Mark

Remember, though, that individuals will always exist which defy group norms.

In general, Mexican Black and Cal Kings have in comnmon that they are both about the same size and have voracious feeding habits. Each also tends to like snakes as food, maybe even more so than other subspecies. Feed generalists, they are easy to feed, as opposed to Alternas and other species which may not prefer rodents as prey.

How they differ is that MBKs are usually even more mellow as adults. The head is more wedge-shaped and wider at the jowels. Cal Kings have more narrow, rectangular heads. MBKs also tend to be slightly more stout than Cal Kings.

Both are exceptional species for "pets" (animal companions), with the Cal King usually slightly more animated & active. Cal Kings only tend to by "flighty" when juveniles. As adults, they tend to be quite mellow and handle well.

While all snakes can be quite mellow if handled well, Mexican Blacks just seem to win the prize for mellow. If you want a more active snake, they may not be as suitable.

hey thnx for the replies! i emailed cherry and got a price list, no mbk's on it, so emailed him back to ask if he had any, no replies yet. i think if i can find some 05's hatchlings i might get a pair, otherwise i guess i will check out other types of kings to breed. but i really like the mbk's! thnx all
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

can anyone point me to someone who might have 05 mbks? thnx
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

Tom Stevens (NokturnelTom) has a second clutch soon to hatch if not already.....the first clutch went fast.
The female breeder MBK Tom has is just a large as Steve's new one from Cherryville Farms.....

John Lassiter

hey thnx, i will contact him. does anyone have any good experience with renegade reptiles? they have a few? thnx for all the help
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CURRENTLY HAVE

0.0.2 PACMAN FROGS------CHUBBS,FRANK THE TANK,
1.0 50/50 CAL KING----PHYSCO SID
0.0.1 SULCATA TORT------BRUNO

John Cherry has plenty and is just waiting to make sure they feed before allowing them out.

i contacted jhon cherry for a price list, i didn't see any mbk's on it. so i emailed him and asked about the mbks, but got no response. so i just figured he was out. I would really like to buy my stock from cherryville because i have heard nothing but good things about them. I would really like to get a pair of this years 05 mbks. do you happen to know when he might have them available? any info is appreciated thnx
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They are all individuals, but my experience has been that they turn into real laid back mellow animals. They are a favorite of mine! I would be hard pressed to reccomend a better animal.In case you missed it, check out the post below on the HUGE MBK That somone got from John Cherry at Cherryville farms. I got some from him last year. He will have some ready soon. good luck.