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What kind and locality? I like these games.

Is that a nice bright Desert king L.g.splendida and at a guess se.arizona.

Nice king

Paul..

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Pinky's taste nice,only if there fresh..

I'll say california-splendida-nigrita intergrade from Tucson area.

Can't speak for the exact local but from what I've gathered that look/phenotype is most typical of population found in the western part of the range. Is that correct?

I don't know what's typical there. I've only caught splendida in West TX. That snake just looked like it had remnants of Cal King barring on the sides and I've seen several pictures of Cal Kings from Tucson area and since they are variable I guessed it could be from there. I did not know that Frank has found them with bars in other areas.

I feel like I'm walking into an ambush. Splendida?

getula (Desert King) from Tuscon?

I'll say Eastern New Mexico area, or El Paso, Texas area Splendida

Steve

I think a little farther west into Arizona....MAYBE Tucson. I dont know too much about Arizona though....LOL....

And yes it looks like a Splendida to me too....

John Lassiter

It is a pure goini from Hillsons website that Sean found.

lol

Lampropeltis getula tusconensis? I'm going with SW of Tucson too. Looks like it has a lot of splendida in it, and something else as well, especially looking at the hint of banding on the sides.

Here's one from Brewster county Texas. I going to pair this one up and start breeding them. Sharp snakes.

Forks

Splendida, south-central AZ.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, TX

Extereme South-West Texas (between Mc Allen and Laredo)?????
Found some there that looked similar to that one.

Jus' bein a good sport n' playin' long' . . . .

Zee

Is it one of those "Black Sock" Splendida like Tim from Vivid Reptiles is working with from extreme west Texas?

It does appear to be a rather normal splendida. But this one is from west of tucson.

Where it occurs is either reminate grassland or real grassland. In southern Ariz, splendida occurs in grasslands mainly, then radiate from there.

What is odd, only a few miles from where this snake was found last night, normal yuma color morph cal kings are found, then above them there are intermediates between cal/splendida/yuma types.

As some mentioned here, the intermediates are often coined as, speedwayensis. A main drag in town.

What is funny is, some here, guessed by local, not by looking at the snake. The local does not matter, the snake matters. This is a splendida, as many here identifyed it.

Of course the beauty that Joe showed has different side markings, but I bet even where his was found, some will have side bars as well. I know I found splendida in constock with side bars, as well as van horn, and Galeana mex.

Whats of interest is the habitat that produced this snake.

As I mentioned below, we went out last night, found 22 snakes, but only one king.

Whats kinda sad is, I rarely take pics of kingsnakes, as I did that for decades(with a SLR) Now I use digital and have very few kingsnake pics in the computer. So now if I see some, I will take their pics for you to enjoy.

I would think the easterners would enjoy our, L.g.speedwayensis, as they sometimes appear very eastern. Cheers FR

>> What is funny is, some here, guessed by local, not by looking at the snake. The local does not matter, the snake matters. This is a splendida, as many here identifyed it.

Frank,
If you had another from that local, that "looked" just like that one, and you bred them together, would you get some of the other phenotypes of "speedwayensis" in the mix or would they produce all splendida types. Just curious because it's been 25 years, but that was really fun cruising that area way back when thanks in no small part to the great variability of the getula in the area.

Forks

Hi Joe, As I mentioned, this population does not meet with the "speedwayensis" types. All thats here is, splendida and black kings. So I imagine the answer to your question is, yes, they would produce offspring that appear splendida and maybe some blackones for effect.

I do like the question thought, as I wonder how goini would respond to that? Thanks FR

>> I do like the question thought, as I wonder how goini would respond to that? Thanks FR

I liked the question too. Especially given this little bit of info you gave us

quote What is odd, only a few miles from where this snake was found last night, normal yuma color morph cal kings are found, then above them there are intermediates between cal/splendida/yuma types. end quote

Best
Joe

I agree with you that the eastern lovers on this forum may love some of the Tucson area getula. I have seen many that look just like l.g. getula especially the east speedwayensis locale!

Greg

Thank you Frank for the picsand for the game. I hope you post MANY king pics in the future.
Todd Hughes
I would have said splendida but wasn't here to play!
Todd Hughes
a neonate from Nueces county near Mustang Island, Texas