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04 Peanut Butter Brooksi male

Nokturnel Tom Sep 07, 2005 03:06 PM

I have an 03 het female for him. I hope he completes the mission next year, he is good looking snake. Tom Stevens
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daveb Sep 07, 2005 03:20 PM

and can you give me the guy's name that caught him?

very nice brooksi, Tom.
Dave

bluerosy Sep 07, 2005 04:20 PM

The PB (Peanut Butter) brooksi came from the Loves wildcaught stock around the same time the hypos started popping up. The Loves were made aware of the diiferent looking neonate that came out of their WC stock which was acquired from a breeder. They wrote it off as another hypo as the hypos from their stock were showing up in other collections. After the Loves were made aware and dismissed the unusual neonate as just another hypo the "original" breeder bought all of the numbered sequence animals with the same parents(a number is assigned to their stock for the parantage on all their animals)from the Loves table the following year.

There is more to this story but you get the idea.

Nokturnel Tom Sep 07, 2005 04:26 PM

Now wait a minute! I thought you said it was caught by Mr Peanut from the Planters Peanut factory on the property of Land O Lakes Butter south of Okeechobee! Tom Stevens

BobS Sep 07, 2005 05:05 PM

np

daveb Sep 07, 2005 06:26 PM

in orlando...do you think they are related?

bluerosy Sep 07, 2005 07:41 PM

I guess I lost my sense of humor

axanthic brooksi crossed with a whitesided blackratsnake:

ZFelicien Sep 07, 2005 07:47 PM

ok are you kiddig?

that thing look very much like a WS brooksi the bands are wider but looks like other WS i've seen... so is it really a cross?

btw: what does the female PB look like now? all i've seen of that snake was a hatchling pic in your ad... any new pix of her?
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Thanx
Royal Blue Reptilez

~ZF

bluerosy Sep 08, 2005 08:39 AM

Zenny

That female turned out to be a male LOL!

I cannot tell you if the pic above is a hybrid or not because it might ruin the fun.

daveb Sep 07, 2005 09:57 PM

especially after the "double amen with sugar on top" thread below! if i don't agree with something i certainly try to be courteous about it. sorry if i ruffled your ventral scales.

that is the coolest pantherophis obsoleta floridana "brooksi" i have ever seen. whose bloodline is it from?
ddddavebbbb

Kinglvr Sep 07, 2005 07:08 PM

Forgive me, but I must be missing something here. That doesn't look like any other PB brooksi I've seen. Do you have any pics of him? It looks almost just like a regular floridana to me, of course I'm relatively stupid, so....

ZFelicien Sep 07, 2005 07:18 PM

That animal is FREAK'N GORGOUS!

I can't wait to own one of those... that snake looks kind different than the one Rainer had in the ad... looks more yellow! I really like...
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Thanx
Royal Blue Reptilez

~ZF

bluerosy Sep 07, 2005 08:16 PM

there is a lot of variance with the adults and the babies go through a metamorphasis after their first shed and then again after their second shed.



















This year and last year I have been using a new male that produces more red neonates so I am improving the line.




Nice het PB:

The main thing I noticed with the adults is the black areas have more a lavender type melanin.

Nokturnel Tom Sep 07, 2005 08:27 PM

How old is the adult in the container with the blue sand? Mine is a yearling and still has a lot of purple too it. I wonder if any will hold some serious purple into adulthood? And is the adult in that pic male or female??? Male correct? Awesome pics bro Tom Stevens

bluerosy Sep 07, 2005 08:55 PM

The adult you are reffering to is probably the yellowest one I have.
I took the pic in '03. It is a male and I think it was 2-3 years old at the time. I have another older one that I got from the originator that produces the red ones.

poss het hypo and a "type" of melanistic easternxbrooksi

Nokturnel Tom Sep 07, 2005 08:20 PM

That's what makes these a lot of fun. Such a dramatic transition from hatchling to adult, and there's many times in between when they shed that it's like a different version of the snake over n over. You'll see times when the color is so cool you wish they'd retain it, and then they shed again and you like the next color even better. Plus the differences in the male and females looks not too mention hets is also a plus. These are way cool
Tom Stevens

Kinglvr Sep 07, 2005 09:04 PM

Okay, now that I look at yours again Tom, I do see the lavender-ish markings that take place of the black markings you typically see in the "normal" floridanas. Some more pics of that beaut would be highly appreciated if possible.

bluerosy Sep 07, 2005 09:30 PM

Posted by: Kinglvr at Wed Sep 7 21:04:11 2005 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

Okay, now that I look at yours again Tom, I do see the lavender-ish markings that take place of the black markings you typically see in the "normal" floridanas. Some more pics of that beaut would be highly appreciated if possible

Kinglvr,
I think you are confusing what you call a "normal" floridanas with a hypo. The hyponmelanistic floridana has been around for a while and is so common people mistake them for what a normal Florida king looks like.

The difference between the PB and hypos are many. One thing I notcied early on is the black markings on a hypo are black and the areas that are supposed to be black on a PB are a lavender color. Its like someone took a phote of a lavender and a hypo and suprimposed them over each other.

This year my hunches of the lavender color on the Peanut Butters came to new discoveries. I bred a T negative albino to a PB and got a new type of reccessive gene instead of normal double hets. This means the PB is related or is a "type" of albino.

T-xPB (Jelly)

Kinglvr Sep 08, 2005 07:01 PM

Thanks Rainer, I apologize for the confusion. I know the difference between hypo floridanas and the "NORMAL" floridanas, I guess I just wasn't thinking right or something. Once again, I apologize.

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