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I purposly chose the ugliest, darkest looking adult Blaze I own to take pics of. Look at the underbelly. Do you think there is a trait at work here? Forget the black tipped scales since this is not a hypomelanistic gene. Is this a pattern abberancy? The founders of these tells me the black areas are brown rather than black as neonates. Is this trait a color trait? Abberancy trait? Both? Or none at all?

For what its worth my opinion is that its a form of hypomelanism. I hatched a few neonates that had were definately different but certainly were not hi red. That the initial animals coming out were hi red only stems from the fact that whatever the trait is originated out of a hi red project. IMHO it'll take a little more work line breeding blaze into diverse hi red lines before they start consistently living up to their name.

On a slightly related note, a friend has been keeping/producing his FL kings with the highest amount of red (He calls it orange--and sometimes it IS)swearing all along that he would end up with hypos of his own by doing this. Of course that's what happened. So to me, it seems that hi-red is somehow associated with the lack of black. Is it because it is simply taking its place?? I dunno. With nearly all getula the red fades out (some disappears altogether)and leaves a much lighter animal. If it starts out with a high percentage of red vs black/brown then it should appear even more "hypo-ish" I guess as it matures.
It also seems to me that some of the "hypo" genes are not the same and may be incompatable. Could it be that the young from the blaze X hypo FL are double hets for two different types of hypomelanism?? Maybe that's why there were no "hypo" babies in the first clutch(es)?
:Mark

BINGO!

I think you hit the nail on the head. Still it'll be interesting to see what the F2 generation from this initial cross will produce. Only then can we say anything conclusive.

Ain't that why we do it??
Just so we can be put in our place the minute we think we know what we're doin'!
:Mark

I'm surprised you said that's your ugliest Blaze Phase Goini. That animal is BEAUTIFUL in my opinion, absolutely incredible. How old is he and how long is he? He looks like a monster!

He is a SHE and I will take some pics tommorow evening of the nicer ones including the male. I will post them later tommorow eve.

Thanks