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Question for altered mind...or anyone who can help

kingofrain21 Sep 08, 2005 09:15 PM

I just had my first leopard gecko hatch yesterday and it was from a super hypo baldy male (just a touch of orange on his tail, not much) and a female having a considerable degree of orange peeking through on the body with reduced spotting but not to the extent of a hypo... i saw your posts earlier of your super hypo and was wondering if you have hatchling pics of super hypo leopard geckos... and also - is it possible that i can end up with hypo/super hypo babies? i started with corn snakes a few years back and most of their traits are recessive; i get the impression that the hypo trait in geckos is more of a co-dominant line bred trait (keep breeding animals with minimal spotting and eventually you'll get one with almost no spotting- am i wrong?)-- sorry so long
-thanks!

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cherribomb Sep 09, 2005 12:44 AM

Tangs aren't my specialty so hopefully someone else will answer (Dude, I know y'all are lurking out there - You know who you are!)

I wouldn't use the terms "recessive" or "co-dom" with tangs and CT's since they're line-bred...but I have heard that there may be a genetic basis for such colorations based on some wild-caught leos.

Some HTs and some SHTs are like BAM! straight out of the egg. They come into the world with that coloration and that look where you can be like "YEEEAH! that one's gonna be killer!". A few are surprises. The educated eye can identify the super-hypos and soon-to-be CTs from birth, but there are always great surprises with leos as they shed and grow. I love that!

At first glance, hatchlings that will turn out to be nice hypos, perhaps with a passable degree of carrot-tail, can look VERY normal. Dark bands and all. The absence of those black "handles" on the rear legs plus increased tang coloration in those areas and an increasingly faded appearance to the darker bands and areas typically suggests that the baby will hypo-out to a major or minor degree and develop a deeper tang coloration than the average normal.

Wow...sorry for rambling! Perhaps someone with decent pics will respond with their hatchlings (I couldn't take a decent photo if someone put a gun to my head).

Here's a crappy pic of what turned out to be a HT with a fat chunk of orange base of beginning at the base of her tail. Note the "fading" around her dark bands, lack of dark "handles" on her hind legs, and increased tang on hind legs. Definitely not quite enough consistency to be called a carrot-tail and she's nothing special, but heck, she's now a beautiful, fat, deep hypo tang with great tail coloration and she looks like a different leo than her baby pics.

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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

AlteredMind99 Sep 09, 2005 07:27 AM

This is the picture i took when i first brough my SHTBCT home...

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0.1 Bearded dragon (Hannabil)
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake (Morticia)
1.1.2 Leopard Gecko's (Pogo, Louise, Orion, Jeffrey Nothing)
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn (Autumn)
0.1 Bullmastiff (Asha)
4.1 Cats (Poe, Tucker, Abhid, Felicity, Emmy)

AlteredMind99 Sep 09, 2005 07:28 AM

And this is a pic of him from last week or so, he is going through a shed right now and its looks like some real nice orange is showing up around his head/neck, maybe he will be a carrot head too....

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0.1 Bearded dragon (Hannabil)
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake (Morticia)
1.1.2 Leopard Gecko's (Pogo, Louise, Orion, Jeffrey Nothing)
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn (Autumn)
0.1 Bullmastiff (Asha)
4.1 Cats (Poe, Tucker, Abhid, Felicity, Emmy)

GreggMM Sep 09, 2005 03:52 PM

First day out of the egg....

Here she is like 4 months later....

Shelley1063 Sep 09, 2005 09:23 PM

She is a beauty !!

cherribomb Sep 10, 2005 01:12 AM

lol! Gregg - I knew you were out there. This is your forte, after all

As always, killer tangs.
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

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