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age of breeding and can she still breed

zeroto4legs Sep 11, 2005 07:09 PM

hey everyone im looking to get a male for my female what age is it good for a male to start breeding or is there a weight or what, and is my female to old to breed she is about 4 years old is she to old and how old is to old

thanks for everyones help

and to all you breeders do you guys ever sell adult breeder males and if so what is the best time to get them thanks
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Zero to 4 legs
1.0 Black rough neck monitor
0.1 bearded dargon
1.0 ball python

soon to be getting
1.0 red tegu
or
1.0 b/w tegu

Replies (9)

clarinet45 Sep 11, 2005 11:46 PM

May i ask you why you want to breed?

to answer your question, males shouldn't breed until they are 'adults' at a year or more. They should be at least 18" and 400 grams to ensure healthy offspring. Weight is not as important with the male as it is with the female - You just want them to be around the same size and you want your females at least 300 grams preferably more, and 18" or more.

"Usually after their 4th year - depends on when they started breeding and how much they lay"
regarding females from harold murray. I would make sure she's healthy, get a fecal done, etc. Also make sure that any male you pair her with is 100% not related to her. I have had my Feng for 5 months, and still don't have all the info on her!

I would look at getting a new female and male and start from there if you REALLY want to breed. IMHO. But the market is FLOODED right now and you probably won't make any money as it is expensive to raise babies!

jakentbc Sep 12, 2005 07:33 AM

yeah she is right...the market is totally flooded. maybe we should stop telling people how to breed.
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a free range dragon is a happy dragon

billys_girl Sep 12, 2005 10:18 AM

That's a pretty dense statement. This message board is all about helping and educating people about these animals. Who are you to decide what information should be provided and what information should not? You are not the only person in the business that has "expertise" in breeding BDs, and if you don't provide information and assistance to amateur breeders/keepers, someone else will.
Zeroto4legs, if you want to breed your animals, go for it, regardless of what the market is doing or what people tell you. If you can't find the help you need here, I suggest you email or speak with other people within the industry. There are a ton of great people out there who are more than willing to provide you with the information you need. Good luck.

jakentbc Sep 13, 2005 03:25 PM

listen to what you want to....

the BD market varies from area to area. THis LOSER who thinks I am lame is obviously lacking elementary fundamentals of RAISING ANIMALS.

All you have to do is go to a pet store in your area....do they have bearded dragons? there is a pet store near me that has like 300 babies...all of them are missing tails and feet because they can't feed them enough! Who in the right mind wants to buy a "defective" pet? So all of those 300 babies will end up being KILLED because no one wants to buy them.

So if you don't mind killing the babies go ahead and breed.
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a free range dragon is a happy dragon

nathan23 Sep 14, 2005 12:35 AM

Weither or not he breeds his dragon is not going to effect an entire market. He is talking about breeding on a small scale not mass production. And there alternitives to selling to a pet store. You can sell online or at local reptile shows. And just to let you know some people do and will buy nipped animals. My first dragon 10 years ago was bought with a missing right foot and half the tail gone. I raised her up and got plenty of babies out of her. If your local store has 300 dragons and thay all have defects. then maybe you should do the right thing and go there and try to educate the employees on proper care. And if they are all going to be killed then contact an animal rights group or rescue in the area, maybe they will do something.

billys_girl Sep 14, 2005 08:29 AM

Well said. Plus, I don’t recall reading that this person had planned on selling his/her animals. It’s a natural assumption that he/she would want to profit off of breeding, but I know many people who breed their animals once, just for the experience and to have the animals for himself.

billys_girl Sep 14, 2005 08:27 AM

Your statement: “Maybe we should stop telling people how to breed” was lame, and I’m sure many would agree. You must think pretty highly of yourself to think you’re the only person in the industry that doles out breeding information. Perhaps you are somewhat insecure in your advice as well to suddenly become so defensive and resort to name-calling. I didn’t call you lame, I said your statement was lame. Read a little more carefully next time. And don’t take things so personally. This isn’t about you honey, it’s about giving this individual the CORRECT information he/she came here looking for. Get over yourself and RELAX.

nathan23 Sep 12, 2005 11:43 AM

She was still giving me clutchs of 20-25 eggs. And I had a 100% hatch rate. The babies were just as healthy as the younger breeders offspring.

peace,
nathan

nathan23 Sep 12, 2005 07:37 PM

You said your female is 4 years old. Typically that would be near the end of a good females breeding. But there are always exceptions. A lot of dragons will continue to breed well over that age. I had a female that was 9 and still giving me good clutchs.

Watching your dragons grow and reach maturity and eventually breed is very rewarding. It lets you know you've done things right and the animals are dong well. Especially that first baby that pokes its head out from the egg. Nothing else like it. I still get that feeling with each and every baby that hatchs. If you are looking to get into it to make a profit then thats the wrong reason. But If you want to breed your dragons because you love the hobby and want a rewarding experience then by all means go for it.

One recomendation would be to get a book on beardies and look up info in past reptiles magazines. These will be usefull tools in the future.

peace,
nathan

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