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Crimsonking was right - Anery mud snake baby:

Oxyrhopus Sep 12, 2005 10:37 AM

Below, Mark said there might be a surprise with the hatching mud snake babies. He was right. I thought all would perhaps be born red and het for anery but yesterday I saw a black head poking from an egg and thought it might be an anery. This morning I found it in the box. Both snakes in photo are in heavy shed, but more are still hatching and hopefully there will be more anerys. For those that don't know, Mom was a wild caught anery.

Dan

Replies (11)

Oxyrhopus Sep 12, 2005 12:02 PM

am wrong, but if one anery hatched, then the mother must have bred in the wild with a het anery father and therefore the clutch should be 50 percent anerys and 50 percent het anerys? Well I just checked the eggs and another anery is hatching. Neat stuff. I should start buying lottery tickets.

Dan

crimsonking Sep 12, 2005 12:19 PM

Great news Dan. Do I win anything??lol!
Well, now I guess you'll have to "prove out" the anery by breeding two together.
Just more fun down the line and with the possibilities of that other hypo/albino or whatever it was, I think you may be on to something.
More pics when they shed!
:Mark

crimsonking Sep 12, 2005 12:22 PM

I'm not sure 50% would be right.. Isn't it 25%.
My math needs work.
:Mark

crimsonking Sep 12, 2005 12:24 PM

I think your original 50% would be correct if it is in fact a simple recessive,huh? She IS an anery, I forgot.I'm too tired. Great news anyway Dan!
:Mark

Oxyrhopus Sep 12, 2005 12:52 PM

Just kidding. When I try to figure it out, it brings back memories of sitting in biology class staring out the window and wondering why I was there vice herping or fishing.

Oh, and for the prize, I am sending an autographed photo of me holding the profits of these snakes. Only kidding. I will gladly send one your way.

Here is momma getting fat for spring breeding with the albino

Dan

Snake_Master Sep 12, 2005 03:48 PM

Hey are you selling any of the hets?? or trading for anything..? if so shoot me an email..thanks alot..

Zach.

Oxyrhopus Sep 12, 2005 11:22 PM

Here are 3 anerys and one normal hatching this evening. I will set them all up and feed them and keep in touch via email.

Dan

justin stricklin Sep 12, 2005 09:47 PM

If it is indeed simple recessive, then according to the punnet square, a breeding of anery to het will produce 50% het and 50% anery. Those are so cool!!
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Justin

alex Sep 15, 2005 12:55 PM

Your sample size is really too small to tell if it's dominant or recessive - it could be recessive, bred to a het recessive (which would certainly be the case where anery A corns are quite common) but it's also possible it's a dominant trait, so it might be useful to breed to a male from a completely different area to see if it pops up. You'd need a lot of snakes to be sure either way though...

Jeff Schofield Oct 12, 2005 01:33 AM

THat was anything but recessive.Discounting pattern variation.Jeff

scottofhouston Sep 17, 2005 10:29 PM

Very cool man. Great thing to see pics of. Does anyone know if this trait has been documented in reinwardtii ?
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Scott Wahlberg

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