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After all the problems with my anery female, the first egg of her second clutch pipped today.
Her first clutch 1 good egg out of 20...
Her second clutch 6 good out of 15....
I have yet to figure out why there was a low fertility rate...
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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats

Congrats!!! Im still waiting for my first clutch to hatch, Its been close to 70 days and still no babies.

It's been only 61 days for this one.
For the first clutch of only one egg it was 68 days.
Once the snake pokes it's little head out, it make sit all worthwhile..
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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats

Unknown to me, one of my anerys is het for amel......
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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats

You can't get an amel from an anery A x anery A cross. Even if both of your aneries were het for amel, an animal from such a pairing that was also homozygous for amel, would have to be a snow.

So, either your aneries are not both anery A, or another male was given access to your female, no matter how briefly. I notice that you have a male snow corn on your animal list in your posts, but that wouldn't give you an amel when crossed with an anery either.

Looks like you've got a little detective work ahead of you!

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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

What would I need to get an amel from an anery female??
My Anery male has brown blotches and is gray with the little
yellow stripe on his chin. If I get a pic I'll post it.
For her first clutch she was breed to my snow but for her second she was breed to my anery.
I was shocked when i saw a little pink head sticking out of the egg, I was expecting all anerys.
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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats

If your female is an anery A, then the ONLY way to get an amel out of her is for the following to be true:

1) She has to be het for amel (obviously)

AND...

2) She had to be exposed to a male that carries the amel gene (either heterozygously or homozygously), but the male cannot be homozygous for anery A

So, a normal male (if he is het for amel), your amel male, or even that bloodred male (if he's het for amel)you have listed...any of them could be the sire of that little amel baby, depending upon which one(s) is/are large enough to breed your female. A male can breed as soon as he is large enough not to be frightened of the female, so you may be surprised as to which male got the job done, assuming you have some smaller males there.

Here's the another kicker...

Since corns can conceive from multiple males, it may be that your anery male did sire all of the other hatchlings, OR the sire of that little amel may also be het for anery A, in which case, there is likely no way to tell (short of genetic testing) which of the snakes is the sire of the anery A babies.

It only takes a second or two for willing corns to lock up, so it is entirely possible that you didn't notice your female being bred by another male, but whether you saw it or not, it happened. There's just no way for an amel to come from breeding to anery A parents together.
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

>>It's possible the snake is a snow and not even an amel.
Some snows start out pretty pink.
It can't be an amel from two anerys. So no matter what they are het for, amel doesn't fit.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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It is white and pink, more than likely it's a snow.
Is that possible from two anerys or could it be from the original mating with my snow male???
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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats

>>It is white and pink, more than likely it's a snow.
>>Is that possible from two anerys or could it be from the original mating with my snow male???
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A snow is very possible from two anerys, as long as they wewre both het amel.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

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Pic 1 is of my female anery.
Pic 3 & 4 are of my male anery.

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Cory
Corns
1.0 Snow
2.1 Anerythiristic
1.3 Normals
0.1 Okeetee
1.1 Bloodreds het Pewter
1.0 Amel
0.1 Banded
0.1 Blizzard
1.1 Normal het Amel
Rats
1.1 Black rats
Kings
1.0 California
1.0 Florida
Milks
1.1 Pueblan
Lots of mice and rats