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I recently received a replacement from the horrid specimen previously purchased. Well, I took a fecal sample to test in the smear and float techniques. The results? It had roundworms which is alot better than the previous WT. Here is the thing. I was told that panacur might be the best thing so he prescribed the veterinary version which is alot stronger than the over-the-counter versions. BUt he said not to give it anything until I get him the weight as I only brought the stool sample. Well, he called today for me to go down there tomorrow as he said ivermectin would be better at the eradication process. He said he consulted with a collegue and said that injecting it may be the best way for treatment. Has anyone heard of injections being more effective than oral methods. Or other drugs that rid the round worms.
Thanks,
LATER

Ivermectin is for reptiles that Panacur fails on.It is NOT the Vets version of panacur.Panacur is very safe(and highly effective),Ivermectin is NOT so safe.If panacur fails,your monitor is too infested!Panacur and Droncit (for tapeworms)are all you need for worms.I had a vet kill a monitor of mine 15 years ago with Ivermectin.

Hey by the time I got back to check the posts the deed had already been done. He had given it, not intrasveneously (my mistake) but subcutaneously. I tried to see the dosage but couldn't tell. He wants me to come back next Saturday for the next dosage. Then followed by another doasge and fecal exam and then yet another one to finish the procedure. What the hell do I tell him before he kills it? He is a cool vet as he gives me discounts and pay later for any animal I bring in. How do I let him know that I still think he is knowledgeable and helpful for my dog but not so much for my next animal which is my WT monitor. Hey also, should I try to treat it with the panacur I have? If so how much should I use. I know that it depends on the weight amount so to be exact he is between .23-.27 kg's. So that might give you a better idea. WHat is your take on the matter.
Hey thanks for your much needed help.....

There are some really awsome books out there that talk indeapth about drugs/ illnesses, etc. One that I have is titled, the Exotic Animal Formulary. Another good one(slightly more expensive)is Reptile Medicine and Surgery. They are written for veterinarians/ vet students, but are regardlessly, super helpful.

Good Luck!

I don't care right now about price, although I should as my a$$ has to pay this back to the university, and will check the vet school tomorrow for these books. I, luckily, am about 1 mile away from the vet training school and hope they have the book. I plan on picking some other books realted to the herp society at my expense. Donations will be taken (seriously) to help me purchase all these damn books. You guys know how much these college books cost. Yup appx $100/new book so if I do get it I'lll still hook up everyone anyways just because I am a cool fricken guy and want to help as much as I can even though I will lose maybe $500.00......Please pray for my wallet............

Don't give it the panacur too.I would just ask him why he didn't think panacur would work.Ivermectin is usually a last resort.Is he a reptile vet?A good friend of mine is one of the best reptile vets on the east coast(Scott Stahl).We used to race motocross together.I get over the phone help from him when needed I have never had panacur not kill all worms except tape worms.

Yeah, I know not to use both. I wasn't going to use them concurently but what if I start the panacur next week instead of the ivermectin.

I persoanally would use the panacur(Fenbendazole) you have, and screw any more doses of Ivermectin.I get panancur at LLLreptile and they have the doses on the label.(like 4cc's a lb.)It is so safe that it is near impossible to O.D. them on it.Margin of safty is way over 500 times the dosage.unlike Ivermectin. Panacur 10mg./lb.=(0.1ml/lb.)

I think your vet screwed up MAJORLY when he dosed your animal. Overdosing to this point is extremely rare, even for Ivermectin. Dosage should have been .2mg/kg repeated after 2wks. How long did it take before you animal passed away? If it died from an Ivermectin O.D., than I bet you saw symptoms within 24 hrs. Neurological symptoms?
anyways- Panacur(Fenbendazole) should be given in the following dosage; 25mg/kg every 7 days up to 4 treatments. It is def. the choice med for parasite control, but like I said before, Ivermectine O.D. is not very common, and I would seriously be concerned if a vet O.D. my animal with this med.

Good luck to both of you,
Michelle

The Vet said that it was most likely an alergic reaction to the medicine.I don't know if it was or he was just covering his @ss.Either way,I would never use it again.I don't think it is ever needed to kill those nasty little critters