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I've come up with a few more SPECIFIC questions this time . . .

emilystrange7147 Sep 18, 2005 12:46 PM

I've done a little more research, and I've narrowed down my choice to "Black Kings."

I'm still a bit curious, though. I don't know how much that particular subspecies typically goes for in terms of money or their availability, or if they will exceed the "generic" length of say a Speckled King or Eastern King.

Housing won't be an issue; I've already looked deeply into that and calculated the possible costs and what-have-you, nor will feeding.

Oh, and one more little quiry --- would it be an easier course to adopt a different subspecies of King or go with a Corn Snake?

And if you guys can think of anything else that would be of help, I would be greatly appreciative .

Thanks in advance!
~Sarah

Replies (4)

tspuckler Sep 18, 2005 02:15 PM

Sarah,

There are two different types of Black Kings. Mexican Blacks and Eastern Blacks. Mexican Blacks are far more popular. As far as size, they average 3-1/2 to 4 feet, which is between the average size for Speckled and Eastern Kings.

All normal phase Kings are readily available at $30-$40 for normal color/pattern phases. There is no advantage over a King or Corn snake as long as they are healthy - it's a matter of personal preference.

Tim
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emilystrange7147 Sep 18, 2005 03:36 PM

Thanks for all of the info!

I have but one more question: in terms of handling(and I know, never put any kind of constrictor around your neck), how could I go about that in the most comfortable and stress-free way possible for the serpent? Are there any particular pressure points on the body I should be careful to avoid? Do they like to be pet and/or "cuddled" with at all?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated !

Sorry for being such a nuisance,
~Sarah

markg Sep 19, 2005 02:15 PM

No snake likes handling, but many types tolerate it very well. If done corectly, handling causes minimal stress to the animal.

With a kingsnake, it is always best to let the snake crawl through your hands, and support the snake but do not squeeze or grip too tightly, unless it is necessary, like if the snake is getting away from you in an area that it can escape. Many captive adult kings do not even mind if held tightly; they do not react with a flight response.

As you gain experience, you'll just "feel" the right way to do it. The right way is any way that you have control and the snake isn't overly stressed. If a snake is flailing wildly, then you have no recourse other than holding on firmly on the neck area behind the head and supporting the body so the snake doesn't hurt you or itself. But Mexican black kings usually do not do that.

Hatchling kingsnakes can be a challenge to hold sometimes because they can be so crazy. As they get older, most kings handle very well. Mexican black kings get really mellow.

BTW, a kingsnake can't choke you if put around your neck. You wouldn't endanger yourself putting any kingsnake around your neck. Still, the neck isn't the best place to hold a snake. You don't have good control.

Constrictors only constrict prey. Sometimes when a snake gets tense and is on you, it will tighten up its coils just like anyone's muscles tighten when stressed. That isn't constricting to eat, that is tension. Tension in a 15ft reticulated python could be dangerous around your neck, so don't drape one of those on you.

thomas davis Sep 18, 2005 03:57 PM

black kings are great weather they be l.g.nigra or l.g.nigritus both are great getula and are soooooo much better than corns IMHO there are none better getula rule!,,,,,,,thomas davis

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