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Can cresties eat wax/meal worms?

RedQuake Jul 19, 2003 07:20 AM

I bought a bunch of both for my leo and i'm curious if i can feed any to Zeek?
Thanks
Red

Replies (14)

bm21 Jul 19, 2003 01:18 PM

my crested gecko loves mealworms. just make sure to monitor the number you feed them, i wouldn't advise feeding more than a dozen over a week.

RedQuake Jul 20, 2003 07:28 AM

Thankyou

I'm feeding a primary diet of the CGD with crickets once or twice a week. Now i can include mealworms in that too

Red

Severa Jul 20, 2003 09:40 PM

What is CGD short for? I want some ciliatus or auriculatus in the near future and I am still just gathering information. Do you feed yours strained fruit baby foods?
Thanks,
Severa

RedQuake Jul 20, 2003 09:55 PM

CGD stands for Crested Gecko Diet, a commercially produced food specifically made for crested geckos. I feed Zeek a combination of this diet plus insects. He's not exactly keen on the diet (he wasn't that keen on baby food either) but i cover the crickets in it before i feed him. That way he gets the best of both worlds. And i leave a small amount of it in his cage.

Currently he's watching me at the computer lol waiting to be fed

Hope that helps ya out

Red

azteclizard Jul 21, 2003 10:27 AM

Just some advice. If you want to dust your crix with one of the diets, you might want to use the leopard gecko formula for this purpose. The only reason is that when you use the CGD, it skews the calcuim to phosphorus ratio. The diet itself has what is considered to be the right ratio, the cricket being high in phophorus will change the ratio. Will it have any long term effects? Who knows? It's just that the Leopard gecko dust was formulated to be dusted onto live prey.
good luck
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RedQuake Jul 21, 2003 11:20 AM

I didn't know that.....thanks. I just thought seeing as he was on crickets and i wanted to switch him over to CGD that introdusing it that way would work better than just not feeding him crickets and leaving a bowl of CGD for him. Now he gets the CGD daily and crickets only a couple times a week.

I wont use the CGD to *dust* the crickets anymore though

Red

Severa Jul 21, 2003 04:15 PM

is CGD a powder? Could it be used for a staple diet or is it used best for dusting? Would I still be using my rep-cal and herptivite? I am asking this so when i do get my ciliatus, i don't turn them into a mobile chemical factory by using too much supplements. I think I need to really read the contents of CGD to make this easier to understand....hehehe.
Thanks again!

azteclizard Jul 21, 2003 07:33 PM

The CGD was formulated to be a complete diet that can be fed exclusively to your crested gecko. It is a powder that you mix with water to make a "pudding" like substance. If your crested eats it regularly it makes keeping easier and cheaper. It should not be used as a dust. if you decide to keep crix in the diet as well as the CGD, you should get a calcium supp. with d3. You won't need a vitamin supp. if you crested is eating the diet.
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azteclizard Jul 21, 2003 07:28 PM

Red,
don't get me wrong, it is a good way to get him used to the taste, it is just not something you want to continue as a standard practice. Your doing good!
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RedQuake Jul 21, 2003 09:45 PM

Thankyou for letting me know I didn't realize there could be a problem with increased phosphorous levels. The last thing i want to do is upset what balance the CGD provides. He's still not that fussy on it. I would really like this as his primary food with insects as a secondary, that way i know he's getting the proper vit/minerals. One of my leos is not faring to well.... The vet couldn't find anything wrong but we've tried antibiotics and i'm syringe feeding him. I don't want anything close to this to happen to my crested! I really do appreciate the info, it only serves to help out Zeek

Thanks again

Red

mikecoscia Jul 21, 2003 08:03 PM

Interesting Bill. Do you know the exact amount of phosphorus contained within a crix or a complete nutritional break down? We have the above one on our site but we are missing the phosphorus as you can see. So I am curious to know it. Red take bill’s advice on the dusting. I personally use a mix of miner-all and herptivite. However Stick Tongue Farms just came out with Vit-all, which I am eager to try. There was a free coupon for it in the last reptile issue .
-Mike
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azteclizard Jul 21, 2003 08:22 PM

Mike here is a link from grubco. It has Ca and Phosphorus in ppm. Hope this helps.
Grubco chart

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azteclizard Jul 21, 2003 09:53 PM

You should also look into the silkworm info. The percentages(moisture, protien, etc.) should add up to about 100 like the other insects. The protien seems to high.
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mikecoscia Jul 22, 2003 07:01 PM

Well that is why there are ???'s…lol. I believe that info was from Mulberry (I did not make the chart) and maybe they where just rough estimates based off other sources. Take if for what you want. I want to look into some other insects though such as roaches….yum yum.
-Mike

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