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Sorry this probably sounds stupid but I've never seen or heard of one. I used to think that's what a pinstripe was but that just doens't seem right.

Cole Maas

Rumor has it that there are homogenous spiders it looks just the same as a regular spider - hense no super spider.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

to normals it produces all spiders? Sounds kind of like the arabesque boa rumor that a friend of mine is trying to prove out. While it's on the table, how about super pinstripes?

In theory yes - a homogenous spider would produce all spiders when bred to a normal - I have heard varying accounts of this being done consistantly - so far there hasnt been a whole lot of information released on the homo spider to say with any certainty.

As for the pinstripes - I'd have to difer to someone that knows that market better.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

and people worry about the market crashing, there will be new combinations and new morphs for years to come.

Cole Maas

All spiders so have have proven to be heterozygous individuals, but there have been rumors of spiders throwing 100 percent batches when bred to normals. If anyone was likely to be able to say it would probably have to be Kevin over at N.E.R.D. since he's been working w/ them the longest and has a healthy population of them he works with.

My thought on the subject, and this is just speculation is that the homozygous form is lethal, but we'd have to compare ratios of spider/spider breedings with that of spider/normal and see average clutch size. Anyone want to volunteer the next 10 years to that breeding project?

Well anyhow goodluck

the offspring wouldn't survive? My friend with the arabesques got 2 babies from his first arabesque x arabesque breeding that were just slightly better than the rest. Nothing extreme but there was a slight difference. Both died the by the next morning after birthing the previous day.

Cole Maas

Yes, by saying that the homozygous form is lethal I am stating that they either a) die before coming to full term or b) die before reaching reproductive age (usually within first few days/weeks of life).

Like I said before though, this is only speculation and it would take many years and breedings to prove/disprove this.

Thanks,
Dan

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