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Prasina and macrei availability and newbie questions

nekomi Sep 20, 2005 09:31 PM

Hi everyone,

I've been doing some reading up on V. prasina and macrei after seeing some photos of them the other day. They are really neat little monitors!

Anyway, I'd like some more info on them, but caresheets and the like are certainly very limited. My main question is in regards to temperament. Are they handleable or generally very skittish?

Any other miscellaneous info would be great. I can get the basics of feeding, housing, etc. from treemonitors.com, but I'm looking for info regarding their behavior, suitability as "pets" or display animals, etc.

Thanks!!!
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1.2 Panduro cichlids (A. panduro)

Replies (2)

odatriad Sep 21, 2005 08:03 AM

Just to correct you, it's V. prasinus and V. macraei... not prasina and macrei. These animals are NOT "pet" monitors, and do not take well to any form of touch, whether it be scraping shed skin off of them, or even worse, handling. These animals are highly stressed, and do not handle stress well in captivity.

Sadly, most who are purchased die within the first year, as people want their captives to be something other than what they are(an animal who wants to be left alone). Dehydration is a critical factor in their health, and must be prevented/avoided at all costs(where most keepers fail).

If you have never owned and acclimated a monitor before, much less a wild caught species, I would NOT reccommend a tree monitor. These are one of/if not THE most difficult species of monitor to keep alive and well in captivity, and are definately not an 'entry level' monitor. People buy them on impulse, or because of their beauty and allure, whithout knowing or understanding their needs and requirements in captivity.

I would recommend that you gain experience with a CB species, such as an ackie, where it will be easier to understand the needs of monitors in captivity, as well as signs and behaviors, and what they mean. Getting a tree monitor, putting it in a cage, throwing crickets or mice in there every now and then won't get you far unless you understand what a monitor is, how they behave/why they behave, and what they need to survive..

This is based on my experiences, and from watching dozens of people make the same mistakes over and over again, here on these online fora.. Tree monitors are very sensitive, and not recommended for beginners..

I hope this offers some insight.. Take care, have a wonderful day! For additional information, check out my website below, which is dedicated solely to members of the V. prasinus complex.

Cheers,

Bob
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nekomi Oct 11, 2005 12:03 AM

Sorry for my late reply, I've been busy with school.

I took the time to look over your website several times and take notes. I really loved all the information you've compiled about these monitors, particularly the substrate-free enclosures and the cork tile walls! I will definitely be incorporating the "unused wall space" concept in the smaller vivaria I'm planning to build (I have a few projects underway, one of them being a blue-tailed tree glider viv).

In any case, what is your opinion on obtaining a CB tree monitor? I know that the majority are wild-caught (and your website mentions that even those advertised as CB are usually WC), but if I am able to locate a reliable breeder with healthy CB babies, would that change things at all?

Please forgive my persistence and inexperience, but I am trying to learn all I can and scope out any options available to me. I'm dedicated to learning all I can and very glad that there are people here who are willing to share information.

If starting with a CB monitor is still not a good idea, I'm open to beginning with an acanthurus monitor, as I like that species as well. But my true passion lies with arboreal species of reptiles in general, and the tree monitors in particular, so I'd appreciate your opinion.

Thanks again!
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::i believe in joy > http://www.winds.org/nekomi/hope.html

::my homepage > http://www.winds.org/nekomi

My Growing Zoo:

1.0 Husband (Byron) ^_^
0.1 black cat (Shade)
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Zia)
1.0 Leucistic Ratsnake (Houdini)
1.2 Cockatoo cichlids (A. cacatuoides yellow-gold)
1.2 Panduro cichlids (A. panduro)

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