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Draybar, you indicated ...

gypsy1dragon Sep 23, 2005 10:58 PM

In an earlier post about live or f/t pinkies, Draybar indicated that in a later post you would give me information on pre-killing pinkies for freezing or feeding. Can you give me information on the most humane way to freeze pinkies? Thank you.
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phiber_optikx Sep 24, 2005 01:05 AM

I have heard that putting them in the FRIDGE not the FREEZER. I say this because....putting them in the freezer would kill them quicker, BUT it would pe like sticking your hand into a pile of snow for 5 minutes....VERY painfull! if you put them into the refridgerator then they do freeze to death but without the painfull frostbite. They just slowly shut down and fall asleep.
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Dann Sep 24, 2005 07:33 AM

Not saying that any one way of pre-killing is necessarily the humane right or wrong way. I use to toss many pry items right in the freezer.

Rodent operations pre-kill by use of Co2.

You can scale it down. It works like this.

Place a chunk of dry-ice in a small bowl and set it down into a small ice chest. Add 2 cups of water into the bowl of dry-ice. Allow the Co2 gas to fill the bottom of the ice chest. Then place the pry items into the bottom of the ice chest next to the bowl and close the ice chest lid. Death of your pry items will happen very quickly due to lack of oxygen.

If it’s only a couple of pinkies this is a lot of work.
I guess it comes down to how you feel about the pinkies! Will it die by quick suffocation or hypothermia?

Hope this has helped.

Dann Sep 24, 2005 10:19 AM

n/p

mezmerize Sep 24, 2005 10:53 AM

hey i made a post about this a few months ago and several people said that gasing won't work on pinkies for some reason because there lung aren't fully developed or somethin like that...
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Dann Sep 24, 2005 01:38 PM

You were right.

Co2 will do the job.

Try this set up. It will!!!!

draybar Sep 24, 2005 02:14 PM

>>In an earlier post about live or f/t pinkies, Draybar indicated that in a later post you would give me information on pre-killing pinkies for freezing or feeding. Can you give me information on the most humane way to freeze pinkies? Thank you.
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>>1.2 Ghost Corns, Beetlejuice, Casper and Spooky
>>1.1 Charcoal het pewter, Smokey and Flame
>>1.1 Hypo het lavender, Rosy and Rocko
>>1.0 Anery, Goku
>>0.1 Amel, Sunny
>>2.0 Tabby Cats, Daddycat and his son Brat
>>0.1 Australian Shepherd, Angel
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>>Gypsy

well,
If live pinkies were all I could get I wouldn't worry about pre killing them. Pinkies and fuzzies can do no harm.
If I was to buy more live pinkies or fuzzies then my snake/snakes could eat at one feeding I would probably just put them in a baggie and put them in the freezer.
I have read that this can be painfull to the mice, though. As the moisture in their body freezes and crystalizes it hurts.
As the snake gets bigger and the prey moves up to hoppers, weanlings and adults, they can do harm so it is best to incapacitate or kill them before feeding them to the snake.
When I have had to use live hoppers, weanlings or adults I used the old fashioned "whack 'em" method.
I grab them by the tail and give them a quick whack on the counter. A lot of people don't like this method, to be perfectly honest I don't either, but I happen to be pretty good at it. When I give the mouse a whack, it is fast clean and final.
The trick is to make full contact on the head.
Now, You asked so I offered.
I do not, however recommend this method. If you are at all squeamish or worried about the mouse you will not whack it hard enough. The last thing you want to do is hit one and have it just get stunned or hurt but remain conscious. Not good.

There are ways to use C02 but I haven't tried it so I can't help you there.

There is also the method of holding the mouse by the tail, placing a pencil or screwdriver or something across the back of it's neck, pinning it to the counter, and giving it a quick forceful tug. This can instantly break it's neck and sever it's spinal cord leaving it incapacitated. But this method is even harder to master and can easily leave a conscious mouse with a broken neck.
There are probably more ways but to be truthfull I don't really recommend any of them.

I make it simple. I use frozen and this is the one method I would whole heartedly recommend
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