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any info on zaocys dhumnades wusa snakes??

aloreptiles Sep 28, 2005 02:44 PM

iam looking for info on these snakes but dont find anything, if anybody knows anything please let me know

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elaphefan Sep 28, 2005 11:08 PM

The scientific name for the snake is Elaphe carinata. I am including a link on the snake.
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nazza Sep 29, 2005 04:47 AM

Zaocys d. and Elaphe c. are different snakes.
Zaocys are related to Ptyas. I've seen some cb dhumnades and some cb dinodon here in europe and the same snakes on USA classifieds. I think there were some export gravid in the last months. I don't think you'll find a lot of info about dhumnades
Best regards
nazzza

chrish Sep 29, 2005 03:03 PM

Interesting snake that is apparently heavily hunted for medicinal and food uses in China. I found a website that has recommendations on what parts to use and how to prepare it medicanally - herb.damo-qigong.net/i019.htm

I also found one pic of a big adult by google searching for it. Interesiting looking snake. The green color appears to fade as they grow. Might be a neat challenge.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, TX

Matt Campbell Sep 29, 2005 07:10 PM

I assume you've probably seen the images of the CB snakes that Ben Siegel Reptiles is selling in the Classified section? The genus he's using - Zaocys - is a defunct genus name. Ptyas is the current correct genus name for this snake. At one time an earlier taxonomist had split Ptyas and Zaocys into two seperate genera but they were recombined quite some time back. Not much is know about Ptyas in captivity except that they are usually highly aggressive snakes and can be nervous captives. That being said, I've had some communication with past Ptyas keepers who say the snakes [even wild-caught] tame down pretty quickly in captivity. Only the Ptyas mucosa is the largest of the genus with Ptyas carinata coming in second. Both of those species can supposedly reach lengths up to 12 feet making them arguably the largest non-venomous colubrids. They're apparently largely terrestrial snakes and since most come from fairly hot and humid climes the caging should reflect that.
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Matt Campbell
25 years herp keeping experience
Full-time zookeeper
Personal collection - 21 snakes (9 genera), 20 lizards (4 genera), 6 chelonians (2 genera)

chris_harper2 Sep 30, 2005 09:51 AM

These were available exactly one year ago. You can search the 2004 archives to see for yourself. One pet shop was selling them on Kingsnake and an importer had them on their list.

I suspect these are captive hatched by an exporter in their country of origin. In other words, gravid females are collected and their eggs are hatched by the exporter.

I wish I had taken the chance on them last year as they were very cheap. I think the importer had them for $20 each.

>>iam looking for info on these snakes but dont find anything, if anybody knows anything please let me know

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