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was the pine you saw at the hamburg show??...i saw them too and thought the same thing...i'm in the process of ending some projects and getting into new ones.....the pits and drys have always been objects of interest....any ways the quest continues...yo...shannon...hook a brother up!!!!!!!!!!!1

I thought it was at Dayton, but now that I think of it, it could have certainly been at Hamburg, I will be back there on 10/15, so I will look to see if they are there.

so will i...i may have a table...i'll be selling a pair of adult tri-hogs...trio of striped sinnies....several pairs of graybands...western and mexican hogs....other odds and ends.........

Cool, I'll definitely look for you, and especially for your Hogs!

Bob,
Jason is on my list next year for a female and thats it?Just let me know.They aren't huge producers so isn't like I can fill five orders!LOL......but I should be able to hook you up with a pair no problem.

Shannon

heres a little baby from last year that I produced and gave to jason.

You can put me on the list! I'll start saving money By the time you have them available hopefully I will be much more established in the pit world

It seems a lot of Dry keepers enjoy keeping Pituophis spp. as well. I have always enjoyed keeping both, but with my adult Dry collection nearing 100 specimens, I have found myself reducing the number of Pituophis I keep.
Since you appear to enjoy specimens rarer then hens teeth, here's a dry I bet you will appreciate...

Best regards,

Jeff

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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

I have been wanting Indigo's for quite some time. I just want to get more established with Pits before moving up.

would that be a texas???

It's a Mexican red-tail Indigo (D. m rubidus) I hatched out 6.4 of them this year.
Cyberfrog, I may get flamed on teh Indigo forum for saying this, but I would consider the acquisition orf Drymarchon more of a lateral move, instead of a move up, as both genus are great to work with...

Best regards,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

I agree, they are both awesome, but I need to fill some holes in my Pit collection and thin out my ATB herd before I jump into the Indigo's with both feet.

i'm going from tricolors& hogs to drys & pits...still keep a few of the other, but i never had the room for the larger snakes 'til now.....excited

It's funny how this hobby seems to evolve. I used to work with tri-colors, once my fascination with large constrictors ended.
My first passion was Drymarchon, as I used to catch D. couperi frequently as a child, since my family resided in Homestead, FL.
Pituophis quickly followed, after finding my first P. m mugitus in Ocala, FL while visiting friends with my family.
It seems most individuals are attracted to the hobby by large snakes, followed by smaller attractive snakes, which often leads to the keeping of more challenging specimens, such as lizards, again, usually large specimens, which leads to smaller attractive specimens, until you end up back where you originally started, Drymarchon and Pituophis for me!

Best regards,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

Thats interesting Jeff. I seem to find myself going through a similar circle. Maybe for me it's trying to get back to that time of my first snakes and the electricity of it all.The satisfaction of the fewer than the many and the magic and wonder of working with cool animals.Then again maybe I'm just the average snake nut.LOL

To limit one's self, as there are so many unique and interesting specimens available now days, especially with the internet and advances in husbandry. Not like the good ole days, when your access to available specimens was limited to what you found along roadsides and ditches, what the local pet shop had to offer and listings in the very limited number of monthly periodicals and suppliers lists. Of course, being an old So. Florida native, I had access to some spectacular native herpetofauna, as well as the "Shack" to keep my reptilian dreams soaring.
I too have found myself beginning to “limit” what I keep, as I wish to maintain a collection of quality over quantity, so I have been reducing the number of Pituophis spp. I keep, to better maintain my Drymarchon spp. collection.

Best regards,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

I envy you being able to keep the Indigos. (I don't think the DRY guys will lynch you for the Pit comment LOL) I can't keep them, but Gaigeae are scratching that itch nicely.

It's hard not to be impressed with Pits like the Tri -colors DeniseB posted and the Golden Hypo Bulls. Good luck.

I went through the similar cycle. Started off with RTB's and Leopard Geckos, moved up to ATB's and Crested Gecko's. From there I pretty much got out of all of those and am back into colubrids, namely pits, and I would love to have Drys. This process took several years, but I think I am where I was supposed to be.

All roads eventually lead to home...

Best regards,

Jeff
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Jeff Snodgres
University of Arkansas
snodgresjeffreys@uams.edu
501.603.1947

I was lucky enough to pick up a pair of beautiful babies from Suncoast Herpetological at the Tampa show today.
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Lloyd Heilbrunn

Palm Beach Gardens, Fl.