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Problem on incubating Panther eggs

loon Sep 28, 2005 11:57 PM

Hi everybody,
I'm keeping and breeding some panther chameleons. I found the hatch rate is very low (even lower than 50%).
Most of the babies died just before hatch. I found the egg shell was very think and it is difficult to break it. This happens to my Carpet chameleons too. (only 5 out of 18 eggs!) The hatch rate of my veiled chameleon is much higher (almost 100%). I
I tried to use "diapause period" and "without diapause" methods to incubate the panther eggs. For the "diapause period" method, I keep the eggs at ~25C (~77F) for 1 month and keep at ~18C
(64F) for the next 30~45 days. Then, I change the temp. to 26~29C (79~84F) until hatching. For the "without diapause" method, I just keep the eggs at 26~29C (79~84F) until
hatching. Is there any problem for my methods? Any suggestion?
Besides, I found some clutches of several females are infertile even the male actually mated with her. I fear that it is due to Vitamin A deficiency as I heard before. Moreover, some of my males show eye problem. I feed them with vitamin supplement for every 1~2 weeks and the crickets are feeded with carrots. I found some beta-carotene pills (for human) in health food store. I heard that beta-carotene is much safer and never will be overdose as it changes to Vit. A only if necessary. Is it suitable for chameleon as vitamin A source? Is there any method to ensure no vitamin A deficiency?

Replies (12)

WillHayward Sep 29, 2005 12:03 AM

I don't have the answe to all your questions, but as for the chameleons who have mated but have infertile eggs.. Chameleon females can retain sperm. So the first egg laying might not always be fertile.
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1.1 Bearded Dragons
1.2 Maroantsetra Panther Chameleons
1.0 Long Tailed Grass Lizard
500 Escaped Crickets

loon Sep 29, 2005 01:02 AM

Thanks for your reply. However, I've some females which already laid 2~5 cluches. All clutches are infertile......

WillHayward Sep 29, 2005 05:51 AM

Strange. Good luck solving this.

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1.1 Bearded Dragons
1.2 Maroantsetra Panther Chameleons
1.0 Long Tailed Grass Lizard
500 Escaped Crickets

faccip0nte Sep 29, 2005 03:29 PM

happen to be looking to sell any of the ones that Do hatch? lol if so waht kind r they and how much...

loon Oct 02, 2005 10:43 PM

I'll sell the babies when I got more. However, I'm in China and can't export to other countries. Sorry.

loon Oct 02, 2005 10:47 PM

This is one of the babies hatched about 3 months ago.
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loon Oct 02, 2005 10:50 PM

This is one of the babies hatched about 3 months ago.

chameleon76 Oct 03, 2005 11:14 AM

hey looks great awsom color for so young say you in china do you live there or working there anywat good luck hope everything gets resolved with your chams

loon Oct 03, 2005 10:24 PM

I'm Chinese and I live in China. I got all my adult Ambilobe panthers from US last year.

chameleon76 Oct 03, 2005 10:46 PM

thats cool i work with some chinese and we deal with chinese manufacturing i know a little about chinese culture i am always asking ?'s and i do know real chinese food is nothing like american chinese we went to my bosses house a couple of times for dumplings they were great and the hot oils the bst . where did you get your panther from? its cool to talk to cham enthusiests from around the world
keep in touch and on the forums

loon Oct 06, 2005 11:08 PM

Hi,
Actually I'm also working with a digital watch manufacturer. I do believe you can't taste the best and original chinese food in US. Even in China, different places have different styles. Visit here if you have time!

Most of my beautiful panthers were got from Ivan of Mythical Chameleons & Jims of Chameleon Company Limited. They're very nice guys and help me a lot. Try to visit my homepage (sorry it's only in Chinese right now) if you've time. I posted many photos of my chameleons in there. By the way, you can contact me by sending email to me
email: loon@lreptile.com

Homepage:
http://www.lreptile.com/index.htm
My breeders:
http://www.lreptile.com/breeder.htm
Photo album:
http://www.lreptile.com/info-manual-photo.htm
Video clip:
http://www.lreptile.com/info-manual-video.htm

jusmebabe Dec 15, 2005 01:42 PM

I keep in a cainet for 1-2 months then place in a homemade incubatur for the rest of the incubation period at 74f.
As for dusting I use repti cal every other feeding.
Not sure what the problem is with breeding but try lowering the temps.
Good Luck..

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0.0.42 Ambilobe Panther Chameleons

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