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i should of stayed in PA cause there are always reptile shows going on...lol.. i like walking around and looking.. but i heard there is one coming up in oct 22 and 23....but the link to the site doesnt work....anyone know if its still going to go on or if they cancled it?
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Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
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I do not know if it has been cancelled or not but I do know I will not be attending or vending. They havent put on a very good show in the past, I attended one of their previous Columbia shows. They are also involved in some rather dubious advertising "schemes" for this one that would indicate to me a disregard for the truth. I would suggest the Greenville/Spartanburg show towards the end of the month. I have a link on my website. That show is put on by a more reputable promoter. The same that puts on the Tampa show that just happened. He will also have a show in Columbia in January.

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Rich Goldzung
Reptile Basics Inc
www.reptilebasics.com

the southern exotics and reptile show is scheduled for oct 22 and 23 at the jamil temple off st andrews road in columbia . drop on by ....

rich ... you and i have talked on several occasions ... and i even puchased a 12 box rack from you in daytona . i have respect for you as a person and for your business acumen . however , there are NO controversies involving the promotion of this show .
i believe that you have been reading the website of the tampa promoter and not using the faculties of reason which you so obviously have. i understand your reluctance to attend the columbia show . you and i talked about this very situation at the show you did attend in columbia . it was not as well attended as one would have hoped . however , each show that these promoters have done since then has been more sucessful than the last . things are looking up for them .
hope to see you in greenville and hope ALL shows in the southeast do well .

Yes the October 22 & 23 show WILL go on. Everything is full speed ahead. As for the concern about the web site, the server where it is hosted is being updated and should be up and running tonight!
Please if you have any questions or concerns about the Columbia show, feel free to contact me and I will be glad to answer any and all questions you may have.

Thank You for your time

Cathy Elrod
southerncat@charter.net

PS I would like to state that the show you attended in April was not a S.E.R.C show. It was Jason Campbell's show.

is there a number or something that i can contact the people who will be running the show just to double check its still gona go on?
maybe its just me but i dont see that many reptile shows down here in N.C.... is there another site that has more listings on shows coming up? i think kingsnake is really good but im just wondering....
also....im looking for a het albino female....100%... do you think i can find one? or a couple good sized females?
thank you all for letting me know about the show!!
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Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
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Contact Cathy at 864-292-9614 she will be glad to answer any questions you may have about the show.

Monica Elrod & Jason VanderWaal
J&M Exotics , S.E.R.C
Greenville, SC
864-292-9614

For that het...try Reptile Basics...right here in NC.
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Thanks for the plug chuck
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Rich Goldzung
Reptile Basics Inc
www.reptilebasics.com

I couldn't resist
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Yes, the show is still on. This will be a great show.The people that show up for this are truly reptile enthusiasts. No petting zoo, no face painting,etc. I done very well at the show in Columbia that was promoted by Lisa & Jason Campbell. Cathy Elrod held her own show not too long ago in Spartanburg and it was even better. If you want to know how good this show is, then I'd not only suggest, but recommend that you give it a try. There have been a lot of lies & rumors started about this show that just isn't true. Come see for yourself what a great show this is.
And for you Rich, at the last Greenville show held by your friend, you approached my table & stated that this show sucks. And he considers you to be a loyal friend & vendor? It seems as if you think all the SC shows suck. Which just isn't true. I've done very well at all of them.
Cricket
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That show did suck which is why I said that. My loyalty is to who puts on a worthwhile show where I can make money, advertise and talk to some people. If that show by my friend, as you call him, is as slow in january when he puts it on again it is quite likely I will not be back there again. It costs too much to drive all over the countryside to sit on my rear for two days, eat, hotel, etc. to continue attending a show without a future. Too many shows in the Columbia area again. 3-4 (total) a year spread out evenly is all that area can stand. It is very quickly getting back to the old McKnight show days. Randy had a great show for several years. Then it got WAY too often and it very quickly went straight into the can. Soon we will have shows 10 times a year in that area from 3 different promoters and I will go back to not attending any of them. Friends or not. Tony knows this by the way because I have told him.
As for the face painting, I have mixed feelings on all of that but it did work very well in Raleigh for many years to bring in a big crowd. Many of which purchased from me and made that show quite profitable and fun. Whether or not the face painting, etc. contributed to the sales I do not know since we havent had the opportunity in that market to find out how we would do without it. If it wouldnt affect sales with its removal I would be all for it going away. I do recall selling several cornsnakes, kings, and leos to beginners there who had never owned a reptile before. Now that I sell a lot less of those items it is less critical to me but still quite important to many of the vendors.
I also deal very closely with one of Cathys "sponsors" on a regular basis. I did not get my info from the other promoters website or any other BS gossip column. I got it straight from them. Cathys interpretation of sponsorship seems to differ quite a bit from what most would consider sponsorship, including some of her sponsors. Is it an offense punishable by death? No, of course not. Is it hijacking a known name (they spend quite a bit of $$ to make it a known name)to push your agenda, yes. Is it "creative" advertising that is perhaps a little too creative. I think so. In my opinion, it is yet one more dramatic twist in a mutual backstabbing contest between two people with nothing better to do than scheme and go to war. There simply doesent need to be this much drama on either side of the fence and while I have a side I prefer that will change if the drama doesent end. One or both of them needs to just stop the fun, ignore the other and move on.
I wish you and all of the other vendors at the Columbia show the best of luck. I have no reason or desire to see you have a bad show. I simply have had just about all of the drama out of the growing number of children in the promo business and am doing something to help. I am not supporting atleast one of them.
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Rich Goldzung
Reptile Basics Inc
www.reptilebasics.com