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Anyone have this? two colour phases either green or brown

Hello!

This is a Boiga drapiezii. I guess you already knew. It's beautifull!
As a reply to your other message below;

I am a collecter of species of the Boiga genus and also intereseted in other aboreal Asian snakes like the ones you named.
Right now Im the proud owner of;

0.1 Boiga cynodon
1.1 Boiga cyanea
1.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila
1.2 Boiga dendrophila melanota
1.1 Boiga dendrophila gemmicincta
1.0 Boiga irregularis
0.1 Tropidolaemus wagleri
0.0.2 Cryptelytrops purpereomaculatus
1.0 Philodryas mattagrossensis

I have also had a specimen of Boiga nigriceps but unfortunaly it died a couple of weeks ago.
Do you have any other specimens/species of the Boiga genus?

Regards,
Jelmer (Netherlands)

Yo!
Glad to see another arboreal fan. Im from Malaysia so where I come from there's lotsa dendrpophilas and the weather is just perfect for keeping lots of boigas. I'm having trouble feeding a few of my snakes (draps and 2 of the bronzebacks), and so far I've been force-feeding them. Scenting mice or even using real geckos doesnt seem to work, they just thrash around wildly. Do u have any experience to share and advice?

My collection:-
0.0.3 Boiga Dapriezii (green phase 1 brown phase 2)
0.0.1 Boiga Nigriceps (olive phase)
0.0.2 Dendrelaphis cyanochloris
0.0.1 Dendrelaphis Formosus
0.0.1 Ahaetulla (still juvenile unknown if if will be a prasina
or a malayan)
0.0.1 Lampropeltis getula

Normal Dendrophilas are as common as rocks here so i don't keep them, prefering rarer varieties.

What do feed ur snakes?

Hi!

I´m from the Netherlands, so everything (phase) is rare here
2nd of all the weather sucks here for almost any kind of snake. Offcourse also I am more fond of gemmicincta (sulawesi) then melanota as a subspieces.
Most of my animals I feed dead mice. The only will eat this after a period of changing their habits.
Many specimens that don´t want to feed on living mice, will be fed living birds. When they have eaten that, they will often take dead birds after a while (chicks are cheap here). You can let your snakes get used to mice by cutting a bird open and putting a mouse in it. Or defrost your food with hot water (bird and mouse) and then wrap them against eachoter for a minute or so.
Offcourse their are many more ways but this is often the most succesfull one in my collection.
Often lizards don´t work but frogs will do better!

Another general hint that especially is REALLY important for specimens of the boiga genus is: Make sure they drink enough.
Dehydration is a big problem with this genus, and will cause the animal to stop eating.
Any other questions are welcome.

Jelmer

Thanks for the advice! Im happy to report that the other problem feeder (dendrelaphis formosus) is now eating. I came back and saw his belly full with a gecko!
Im sorry i forgot to be more specific. The two problem draps are actually juveniles and are way too small to take birds or chicks for that matter as you can see from the picture earlier. So i tried using pinkies and live geckos which they wont take yet. I believe when they get bigger i'll use sparrows (which is as easily available as chicks here) but rite now they just wont take even geckos which is their natural diet. After talking with my other friend, I assume the last problem feeder a dendrelaphis cyanachloris did not feed because i house him with another subspecies of his own. The presence of the other snake could have freaked him out. I've moved him into a seperate enclosure and i have to wait and see if it will still eat. If not, I'll try ur bird scenting on mouse technique. Thanks!

Do let me know if u or ur frenz are in need of any specific South-East Asian snake. I can tell u we can pick mangroves and whip snakes from the road side just like that (Of course im exaggerating but u get my point) Perhaps I can help.

Cheerios!
Below is a picture of my friend's boiga nigriceps (red phase)

Hello

In case of your draipiezi´s, I would try amfibians. Did you try living pinkies? You tell me you can use sparrows, thats just perfect!; But can´t you get really young ones (alive?)
You ask me if there is any snake I need from south east Asia? ofcourse!!
I would like Draipiezi´s to.
2nd of all Boiga saengsomi
then a male Boiga cynodon
and a male Trpidolaemus wagleri

From outside Malaysia I´m searchin really hard for a female Boiga irregularis.
Dendrophila´s are not that interesting accept when you can get other subspieces then the ones I already have (gemmicincta, melanota, dendrophila)
Last but not least; any other species of the Boiga genus wich is not in my collection is interesting to me.
How do you think you can help me? The only possibility I see is that you can fnd some of this animals and send of give them to someone else who can take them to Holland (at least Europe)
Im curious about what you can do for me.
If you like you can also mail me at: jelmer_groen@hotmail.com

I will open a new topic and show you some old pictures of mine wich have already been posted here in the past. Maybe you like to see them.

Kind Regards,

Jelmer

Hye Jelmer
Sorry i spoke too soon. I consulted my friend who's a wholesaler coz he usually sends herps overseas. It seems our Malaysian customs has recently been very strict. Previously, our post service used DHL to courier stuff without any checks whatsoever. However the new system which started this year has shifted courier services back to Malaysian post, and aha customs! My friend recenlty sent a bunch of chondros to europe but they were seized at our airport b4 it even took off. So sorry, i cant courier to u because of our damn customs. The only way is to obtain a export permit legally from our wildlife dept which is itself a time-consuming and heavily corrupted process (have to bribe alot of officials along the way.) Unless it's in bulk it's not worth it.

Like u said, the only way is to have someone come here, take them, hide them in his socks or smtg and fly back to where u are.

But if u do want to visit Malaysia, I'll show u around, some herping spots and u can meet some wholesalers, perhaps even the famous anson wong.

All our sparrows sold in pet shops are WC btw so babies are out of the question. Frogs? i hear they're not very nutritious, not to forget extremely hard to keep.

sorry about lifting ur expectations too much!

Hi.

No problem, it would be to good to be true.
Many species of frogs are not that hard to keep. Lack of Nutricion is not a problem as long as you just use them for the proces of changing their feedinghabits.
Thankyou for sharing your pics and info with me.

Jelmer Groen