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Hey; I'm taking the sunniest days october has to offer and going down to the pines. I've been there countless times, but anyone know of some excellent places to still see Timbers down there? I'm out to see anything but especially late Timbers; I'm only into photographing (I don't believe in taking anything but termites for my dendrobates from the wild). If you don't want to post your experiances or places, email me at Bigteapot@optonline.net. I'm out for late Timber Rattler's and if anyone knows of any great spots to see them this late please give me some heads up on where. Thanks,
-Sean

If EJ doesn't reply find one of his old posts and ask him. He has a great slide show from herping the pine barrons.

Any undeveloped land in the SE 1/3 of the state is prime hunting. If you are just photographing there is an area called Bass River State Forest. Find a topo map and hit the cranberry bogs that border the forested areas. Be cautious of private property and state Fish and Game. Make sure you know the laws because I've been told they can be nasty but every encounter I've had with them they were very courteous.

Good luck.

>>Hey; I'm taking the sunniest days october has to offer and going down to the pines. I've been there countless times, but anyone know of some excellent places to still see Timbers down there? I'm out to see anything but especially late Timbers; I'm only into photographing (I don't believe in taking anything but termites for my dendrobates from the wild). If you don't want to post your experiances or places, email me at Bigteapot@optonline.net. I'm out for late Timber Rattler's and if anyone knows of any great spots to see them this late please give me some heads up on where. Thanks,
>> -Sean
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Ed @ Tortoise Keepers
Trying to keep the fun in Chelonian care

Finding timbers in the pines will be quite a challenge as a local south jerseyian I've never seen one. There out there but in small numbers. Lebanon state park is a nice place for herping, along with Wharton State Forest and Double Trouble State Park. Good Luck finding one though. Also watch out for the hitler youth(conservation officers) if they see you with anything but a camera they will give you a hard time and rightly so, too much poaching go on out there anyway. Good luck

I'm know this is a huge hit and miss thing. The presentation I give (that Joe mentioned)is based on a single trip that was one overnight trip which spanned one and a half days. We saw 14 or 15 Timbers and 5 Pinesnakes among many other herps and critters. 5 of the timbers we found were in a 20 foot square area. The time of year was August. I don't ever expect to duplicate that trip anywhere in my life time.

btw, it was also written up in Reptiles last year.

>>Finding timbers in the pines will be quite a challenge as a local south jerseyian I've never seen one. There out there but in small numbers. Lebanon state park is a nice place for herping, along with Wharton State Forest and Double Trouble State Park. Good Luck finding one though. Also watch out for the hitler youth(conservation officers) if they see you with anything but a camera they will give you a hard time and rightly so, too much poaching go on out there anyway. Good luck
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Ed @ Tortoise Keepers
Trying to keep the fun in Chelonian care

EJ, just to clarify things you are talking about the new jersey pine barrens correct? If this is the case could you email me some pics of your trip. 14-15 timbers and five pine snakes is just unreal I'm shocked to hear that. Many people spend hours and days in the pines without seeing one timber, 15!! Holy sh t, congrats man.

email address would help cjoneill12@comcast.net

was that number including juvies or ws it all adult numbers on the crotalids?thnx, chp....

All full sized adults... totally amazing.

>>was that number including juvies or ws it all adult numbers on the crotalids?thnx, chp....
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Ed @ Tortoise Keepers
Trying to keep the fun in Chelonian care

ej do you have any pics of the timbers, if not what issue of reptiles magazine was your presentation in. I'm a member of a nj pine barrens forum and all of us are really curious about your trip. 15 timbers is truly amazing for such a highly endangered snake.

I will get the slides scanned and I will post it. It's always fun reliving that weekend. I believe the Reptiles mag was December of last year or the year before. The photos were by Jim Pether.

I'd love to get back there to do my own hunting and photos.

I've been there 4 or 5 times over the years but never encountered anything like that and the people who guided us were amazed themselves. They'd been going there on a regular basis and said they never seen anything like it.

>>ej do you have any pics of the timbers, if not what issue of reptiles magazine was your presentation in. I'm a member of a nj pine barrens forum and all of us are really curious about your trip. 15 timbers is truly amazing for such a highly endangered snake.
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Ed @ Tortoise Keepers
Trying to keep the fun in Chelonian care

Yes there is a jersey pine barrens forum out there, if you want the address just email me cjoneill12@comcast.net. Thanks for scanning the pictures I appreciate it.

ed this sounds intruiging and impressive....sytill having trouble finding that article,though...you say it's december '04 or '03,reptiles magazine?thnx