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Anybody know the name of this phase? The breeder said something about Loma Linda...

Thanks,

Walt

Loma Linda as in the breeder was in Loma Linda CA.
Loma Alta as in 277 (probably not)
La Linda as in Black Gap (probably so)

Forky

Maybe it was La Linda. I may have heard wrong.

Walt

It looks more like the one marked "Christmas Specimens" under this link. It doesn't look at all like the Black Gap one there...

Walt
Dave Doherty's page

and are they less common (rare)? All the ones I see in the classifieds are the same type.

Walt

Joe,

Wasn't Loma Linda the name of a eatery on the west side of the highway in the Christmas Mountians back in the 70's early 80's. My dad and I used to eat Mexican food there.

ECT

Luna Vista? hmmm I never ate there. Could be.

The one in Study Butte was my favorite, what was it Pancho's or something?

Forky

the one and only eating and meeting place for many herpers for a short period of time. In particular the time of the filming or right after of the movie Barbarossa ( < spelled > ) with Willy Nelson. God awful movie except for Gilbert Rollings last movie and one of the first of Gary Busie ( < spelled > ) and the Terlingua and Lajitas scenery. That one trip with what , 23 other lookers at the same time down there and I with the Hyper Viper that had no problem what-so-ever talking to ANYONE that he thought was a herper ! I met a LOT of other herpers by his talkability on that trip. I remember even people that wouldn't even normally talk to another reptile looker that he got to a- talking. Not only has that event never been redone but the mass of alterna found on that trip at one time has never been repeated. I don't know if it was a hurricane that someone thought was going on before/during or what led to the belief of why so many alterna was found on that trip. Anybody remember that ? late 1980ties.
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I may be old , cantankerous, crabby, and cynical, but......

is the memory of a couple of mentally challenged rookies who had found a really neat snake somewhere down there. They put the snake in a one gallon glass jar and stored it in the car with the windows rolled up. After an hour or two of BS'ing in there they mentioned the find and asked if we'd like to see it. Of course we said "SURE". Well the surprise was on them when they pulled the glass jar out of that "oven" they called a car.

Forky

HA ! They not only cooked the one on the jar but ran over one on the east side of the Teepees and lost a door on west River Road. They also came to our door one night at about 4 am with a story that a blue light was chasing them. Thay also lost thier headlights one night and had to depend on a single flashlite to get back to the Easter Egg. WOW !
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I may be old , cantankerous, crabby, and cynical, but......

Mike, are you sure that wasn't Lee Frazior????? :)))

Wayne

There are some tributes about Lee that know as I'm sure others know. These folks were from Alabama hence got to be known as the " Alabama Boys ". they actually went back several years later and had some strange problems again while i was down. If you believe in that " black cloud " theory, these lads had it on both trips.
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I may be old , cantankerous, crabby, and cynical, but......

That's the year I remember...perhaps there was another that has faded in my mind.

It was indeed the Luna Vista Resturant. Very nice people and very good enchiladas! Wasn't open very long though. Maybe a couple years around 1980-81. --Henry W.

...I went to that restaurant with George Burdick and David Easterla in August 1974. It was called the "Luna Vista" at that time. I remember the woman there made great enchiladas and homemade beans. Sure miss those days...

as in or on top of the hill on south 118 about 10 miles from Study going south from Alpine ?
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I may be old , cantankerous, crabby, and cynical, but......

looks like an xmas snake. best thing to do is ask the breeder

Forky

Both you and Forky are right. It was Luna Vista. I do not know how I could have gotten it mixed up with Loma Linda. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I was born in the hospital/sanitarium in Loma Linda, CA. DUH!

I also think the snake looks like it "could" be a Xmas snake, and agree that the breeder should be consulted. It does not look like any 277 animal that I have ever seen. Definitely something from out west.

The food was great at Luna Vista. We used to sleep on the tables in the picnic area across the road by the lake. There used to always be water in the lake, and I heard that it had dried up. Anyone know. I used to see some pretty good bass in it.

ECT

I used to have friends who owned the Luna Vista property after the resturant went out of business. I stayed there in the bunkhouse many times and walked all over that property, looking for snakes. Never found an alterna there, but the property owner, who knew nothing about snakes, swears he saw celaenops at the spring behind the house. He identified it in a field guide that I had. I'm thinking there may have been pictigaster in that spring, but I never saw them there.

The people who had that resturant at Luna Vista, moved up to Alpine and opened a little place called Senior Si Si's. They have since sold it and its called something else now.

The lake across the highway, at gate 9, is called Ament Lake and it still had pleny of water in it when I went there in February of 2004.

...went virtually dry for some time during the early-mid 90's. I heard it had something to do with the dam. Whatever it was, it must be fixed by now if it's filled up again. You are right...it was stocked with LM bass and sunfish, too. It was a nice place to be lazy during the day out way back when.

Dang, was Luna Vista in business in 74? Don't remember. I hung out a lot at the lake as well. I remember watching a bull snake swim across the lake to where I was camped with a couple other herpers one summer. Guess it had to get to the other side... I hunted a fair bit around the lake but never found much. Luna Vista was another story, though. Found just about everything there. OK, I'm getting really homesick for the Bend now....

Someone mentioned eating with Easterla and Burdick. I remember hanging with them in the park on many an occasion. Did you guys see the alterna he had from the Sanderson area with the pinstripe orange bands? Best looking alterna I ever saw. Often wondered what happened to his animals after he committed suicide. Guess his wife gave them to someone. He was a good guy (as was Dave Easterla). Was very sorry to hear burdick took his life. --Henry W.

Can't you take all this onto a chat room?

What does it have to do with my question??

geez...

are you really upset? lol

we decided you should ASK the person you bought it from. although it looks like an xmas (Luna Vista), you can't tell by looking at them.

one thing we do know is AINT a loma linda.

sorry for hijackassing your thread.

Forky