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Heres the low down.......Apollo is in a 4x3x2 cage and he's almost 3.5 long now. I've been trying to get my hard-headed, biaist mother to let me build him a new cage. She says NO. She has hated him from the start and constantly complains that I waste my money on him and that I don't need to waste any more. I've tried reasoning with the woman and make her see my side and why I love him and why it's not wasting money, but to no avail.....

Anyways, if I can't build him a new cage, I'll be forced to give him away because I can no longer provide a healthy habbitat for him.

But heres the catch......I grad. college in May of next year so I'm not sure if I should try and hold on to him and build him a new cage then after I move out or go ahead and give him to someone.

Any suggestions?
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i just got an adult argus who is living in out bath room tub right now until i build him a cage, so my mom keep trying to get me to give him up and get soemthing smaller or what evr. then she came up with a plan since he is new he has to get a fecal done after it come back and he is cleaned if he need to be, she said try to find a reptile diper and then we can section off some of the room that will be like 8 ft by 5 ft and u can give hi hides and what he need, not a bad idea see if ur mom will go for it

pz thism might help my mom doesnt really like reptile besides out bearded dragon, so try to convincer her, is ur b day coming up sice mine is that is what we deacxide block off some sections or build a cage, we have a 3 by 3 by6 glass cage in out lioving room that i mad all nice now mkost ppl when the come ova go to see it bc it really bring out like color to the room and a great attraction,

see if ur mom will let u build something nice, what i might do i build a book shelft for my dad to put his books on the side of the cage,

hope it helps

zero
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Zero to 4 legs
1.0 Black Rough Neck Monitor
0.1 Bearded Dargon
1.0 Ball Python
1.0 Argus Monitor

No, she HATES Apollo, she thinks it's the ugliest thing on the planet. She's one of them women who get up on chairs if they see a cricket stroll by. But whats funny is that she can go spend $200 on a [bleep]shu and let it crap and pee all over the house, but she has the nerve to try and blame the house stinkin on Apollo when any smell that comes from him is contained in my room. My moms a hypocrite and she loves the "it's my house so I can do whatever I want" excuse.

I asked if I could build him a cage and put it in the back room; she said NO, i don't want to see that thing EVER. I said you wont, it'll be in the corner out of view. She said NO. So i ask can I put the cage in my room. She says NO, i waste enough money and I don't have enough room, but it's painfully obivous I have enough room and even if I am "wasting money", it's my money to waste.
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omg i heard the one its my house before,, omg,, its a pian

u know what u could do is find a local breeder(if he is old enough to breed) ask him to take care of him and he can breed him or her to his bt, and he can keep all the babys in return he takes care of him, or find a local friend that would take him for a yr

hope all works out ok if i think of any ideas ill tell u
by the way where do u live
bc i go to a vet sci clas sin my highschool and were trying to find some what big ainimals for the class9im incharge of the reptiles) and the problem is i would have to not let my teacher see me feeding him, bc she hates the hole mouse eating thing(women and there furry pets)

hope it all works out

zero
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Zero to 4 legs
1.0 Black Rough Neck Monitor
0.1 Bearded Dargon
1.0 Ball Python
1.0 Argus Monitor

Zero....slow down when you type man, most of your sentences and words are jarbeled together. But anyways, there are no monitor keepers close by where I live. What I may do is give him up to someone and wait til this winter and purchase a baby BT/WT from Pro Exotics or somewhere else who has a good selection.
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Is it a male or female? Ive got 5 blackthroats right now. Im sorry you cant keep him. At least your mature enough to give him up instead of cramping him in that small little cage. I respect that.

He's a male. I've had him since May of this year and i suspect him to be around 8-9 months old. He has the tip of his tail missing, but thats the way he came from Pro Exotics. He barely tailwhips anymore and he doesn't mind being picked up for a few mins, but then he gets aggitated and wants down. He's never tried to bit either.

I've feed him crickets, mice/rats, roaches, shrimp w/bone meal, and ground turkey w/vitamine and bone meal. He's always in a constant shed.
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why dont you just stick it out for the time you need to grad... its not that much longer I would think he would be ok for awhile.. but they can grow alot in a year so ya.. at least your thinking about him in the long run. good luck
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor, Juvi.
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

Because he's cramped now as it is man, and another 7 months he'll be WAY to big for the cage. It's not like he's gonna stop growing because his cage is to little and I'm not gonna neglect his well being, no animal deserves that.
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well, that is awesome that your thinking about his welllbeing over everything else. Personaly I wouls sneek a larger cage in or somthing.. it would be so hard to give up somthing I raised from a baby. good luck man
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor, Juvi.
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission. Build your cage quietly, coerce or bribe a few buddies into helping you get it into your room, and getting the old cage out.

It's one thing for her to say, "No you can't do that." Easy thing to say, little effort involved. But once the cage is in, she'd have to actually think and put effort into objecting to it to have any effect.

Two things you could do. One, you give the cage some snazzy locks and make it sturdier than your old one. Maybe that'll help your mother feel secure.

A second suggestion, is after you get the new cage in without her noticing, you can play the "How long will it take her to notice" game. *evil grin* But discreetly of course.

Could it be that your mother believes that old myth about them just growing the size of their enclosure? Whatever happens, good luck.
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0.1 chickens (Condor)
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave, Lucy & Amy)
0.1 Halflinger horse (Crissy)
0.1 Normal phase California Kingsnake (Sophia)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

Reptiles, especially a medium or large monitor species. Mom, and dad, own the house, they are responsible for you and the animals you get so they make the rules, as long as your there you must live by their rules. This is why I as well others tell kids not to get monitors, this happens and is posted baout so much on forums.
The problem being that you should have taken responsibilty before getting it and not done so without your parents full support and knowledge that your possible new pet can grow to 5-7ft plus, put you in the hospital with serious injuries with one bite, and would cost a fortune to house, feed, and care for with vet bills. I agree at your age its neat to have cool pets that offend your parents, but in a few years or so you will see things differently. The truth is that this could have been avoided by simply living by your parents rules until you are out of the house, thats how it works. I feel that maybe you should think about the animals best interests before thinking of your own interests, it relies on you for everything. If you can continue to provide for it without cutting it short or causing problems then do so, but if you cant then find someone who can.
In the past I have responded to many posts about kids wanting big monitors, they dont and cannot comprehend what the animals need, only that it would be cool to have them. This is why I have said to many dont get one, but since you have come this far maybe you should try to follow through and provide for what is needed, youll learn a valuable lesson from it and be able to pass on what you learned from this.
Good luck.

But the thing is Shawn, i told her how big he'd get and that I'd have to build him a new cage eventually. She had no problem then. Now all of a sudden, she springs this crap on me and my options are running thin. Hopefully I'll be able to win her over and be able to build him a new cage rather than give him up.
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I'm 22 and I pay almost half the bills so I think it's kinda BS that I'm not allowed to spend my own money to build him a cage and put it in my room where she never ventures. I take care of him and the stupid dog now to and I think it's alittle unfair what she's trying to pull.
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I guess i got lucky with my parents, I had a bad history with drugs about 6 years ago and after they sent me to rehab, i became so focused on reptiles and Halo for XBOX, I have always had a ball python, but after I got sober I saw a sign that said REPTILE SHOW, I was like "what the hell is this, a show for reptiles, you got to be kidding" after that i was addicted, I buy any reptile book I can find, even if it is inaccurate I just like to read about them, so they saw that I found something that made me happy and would keep me out of trouble and they said it was fine as long as I didnt own any hots in their house. Luckily my girlfriend was okay with them too, she loves geckos. Anyways I am rambling, If your willing to ship I may take him off your hand until you graduate, email me at axanthicluv@hotmail.com if your interested.
thanks
tony butler

See, thats something else is that I've always been facinated by reptiles and Dinosaurs. I always wanted a monitor for a pet and my mom knew this along.
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If you're 22 and it's your money, then stop asking her permission. If you're going to give her the power to control what you do, then expect her to treat you like a child. Stand up for yourself. Do what you know your pet needs you to do for him, and tell your mother to butt out. Yes, it is her house. But it's also your house, and your room if you are paying part of the bills.

The only way she would have something to complain about and an honest gripe, would be if she was still paying your way.

My 2 cents worth.