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Anyone keep Banded Geckos? more..

PoohBear03031 Oct 22, 2005 12:49 PM

Hi. I need a little help finding info on banded geckos. Ihave only been able to find two caresheets on them. Anyone have any to recomend? Also, id you have them, can you post pics, and say which type it is. Desert, sandiego,utah, tucson, texas, ect. Thanks.
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7 Leos
Milo(my adult male) Mongo, Raptor,and Spaz
Popeye and Boo(named after Monster's Inc. Character)sex unknown, but I am pretty sure they are females.
Pumpkin the Patternless (he's a boy too.)

1 Female Sandfire X Blood Aboriginie Red Bearded Dragon. Tequila Sunrise, Tequila for short

1 dog
Baby (Peekapoo)

2 Cats
Mr. Kitty and Shelly (my adopted senior citizen. She's 14!)

I lost my baby blizzard before I even picked out a name. May he/she Rest in Peace

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chris_mcmartin Oct 22, 2005 09:13 PM

>>Hi. I need a little help finding info on banded geckos. Ihave only been able to find two caresheets on them. Anyone have any to recomend?

I assume you checked out the ones here on kingsnake already. Sundial Reptiles also has one--a quick search should turn up their site.

Also, id you have them, can you post pics, and say which type it is. Desert, sandiego,utah, tucson, texas, ect.

I keep brevis and v. abbotti. If you're trying to ID yours based on pictures online, good luck! The distinction between brevis and variegatus is fairly straightforward, concerned primarily with preanal pore count as I recall (plus a capture locality helps immensely as the ranges don't overlap).

As far as subspecies of variegatus go, capture locality is really the only surefire way to narrow it down to this level of classification. I'm kinda soured on the whole breakdown of variegatus into subspecies anyway, since they're defined primarily by variations in pattern, and if you see enough individuals, you're likely to find a member of one subspecies which looks like it should be in one of the other subspecies, but technically isn't based on where it was found.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

chris_mcmartin Oct 22, 2005 10:58 PM

The distinction between brevis and variegatus is fairly straightforward, concerned primarily with preanal pore count as I recall (plus a capture locality helps immensely as the ranges don't overlap).

In Stebbins' guide, it says brevis typically have 3-6 preanal pores (usually >As far as subspecies of variegatus go, capture locality is really the only surefire way to narrow it down to this level of classification.

Again, Stebbins says of the 6 recognized subspecies of variegatus, 4 are distinguished from the others solely by pattern (and reading the descriptions indicates the variations can be quite subtle); only two subspecies make mention of other differences (for C.v.variegatus, there are usually 7 or fewer preanal pores, whereas in C.v.bogerti, there are usually8 or more). Even the listed differences are "usually"-type variations, and said identifying characteristics can easily turn up in neighboring subspecies.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

PoohBear03031 Oct 23, 2005 05:38 AM

I don't yet have a banded gecko, I am doing research. I am going to the local expo next April, and I am trying to decide between bandeds, fat tails, and another leo. Well, thank you again for all the info.
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7 Leos
Milo(my adult male) Mongo, Raptor,and Spaz
Popeye and Boo(named after Monster's Inc. Character)sex unknown, but I am pretty sure they are females.
Pumpkin the Patternless (he's a boy too.)

1 Female Sandfire X Blood Aboriginie Red Bearded Dragon. Tequila Sunrise, Tequila for short

1 dog
Baby (Peekapoo)

2 Cats
Mr. Kitty and Shelly (my adopted senior citizen. She's 14!)

I lost my baby blizzard before I even picked out a name. May he/she Rest in Peace

chris_mcmartin Oct 23, 2005 08:47 AM

>>I don't yet have a banded gecko, I am doing research.

Along with the US bandeds you also have the Central American banded gecko, C. mitratus. It is more of a forest/jungle dweller and is bigger than the US geckos. There's one other "forest" banded gecko species for which I can't remember the name right now.

I think the US bandeds could be a "big thing" in the herp hobby if only people would work with them. I guess people don't consider them for breeding projects because they're "local and therefore uninteresting." Within a few generations, I'm sure some interesting morphs could be produced for those so inclined (I like "normal" looking animals myself, but I've seen some folks breeding for high yellow).
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

chris_mcmartin Oct 23, 2005 08:48 AM

There's one other "forest" banded gecko species for which I can't remember the name right now.

It's C. elegans.

There's also C. switaki which is common in Baja but not in SoCal (at the northern extreme of its range), and therefore is protected. Too bad, it's relatively large and would make an interesting captive.
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Chris McMartin
www.mcmartinville.com
I'm Not a Herpetologist, but I Play One on the Internet

coleonyxcorral Oct 27, 2005 05:33 PM

I breed banded geckos and I currently have 23 animals. Including a hypomelanistic male.

here are some care sheets that I wrote
The Western Banded Gecko
(Coleonyx varigatus)
Intoduction
The western banded gecko is native to the Southwestern United States and Northwestern Mexico. There are 8 recognized subspecies; C. v. variegatus, C. v. utahensis, C. v. sonoriensis, C. v. slevini, C. v. abbotti, C. v. fasciatus, C. v peninsularis, and C. v. bogerti. The species is a small species and averages a length of 4".

Housing
The western banded gecko can be housed in a ten-gallon aquarium, or medium plastic shoeboxes. Like all species of Coleonyx, the western banded gecko is a ground dweller and appreciates a horizontal oriented enclosure.

Heating/Lighting
The western banded gecko is nocturnal, UV lighting is not required, nor will it be used if offered to the gecko. Simple flourescent lighting will help regulate the day/night cycle. A warm end of 90 degrees F and a cool end of 70 degrees F provides effecient thermoregulation for the gecko. This can be accomplished with a heating pad or heat tape. The temperatures can be allowed to drop into the mid 60's at night

Cage Furnishings
The western banded gecko will hide in rock crevices, under rocks, and debris. Providing enough hiding areas will reduce stress. The substrate can be paper towels, sand, sandy soil, or reptile carpet.

Food/Water
The western banded gecko dines on small crickets, small silkworms, waxworms, mealworms, and other small insects. Dust every other feeding with a calcium supplement, and dust every feeding for gravid females. Provide a small water bowl, and a small dish of calcium carbonate.

Breeding
Brumation occurs in October and ends in April. This stimulates breeding and clutches are laid thorughout the year. The fertilized eggs are incubated at 85 degrees F and hatch within 60 days. The young have bold striping.

The Central American Banded Gecko
(Coleonyx mitratus)
Intoduction
The Central American banded gecko is native to Costa Rica, Guatamala and other parts of Central America. This species can attain lenghs of 6".
Housing
The C. A. banded gecko can be housed in a ten-gallon aquarium, or medium plastic shoeboxes. Like all species of Coleonyx, the C.A. banded gecko is a ground dweller and appreciates a horizontal oriented enclosure.

Heating/Lighting
The C.A. banded gecko is nocturnal, UV lighting is not required, nor will it be used if offered to the gecko. Simple flourescent lighting will help regulate the day/night cycle. A warm end of 85 degrees F and a cool end of 70 degrees F provides effecient thermoregulation for the gecko. This can be accomplished with a heating pad or heat tape.

Cage Furnishings
The C.A. banded gecko will hide in rock crevices, under rocks, and debris. Providing enough hiding areas will reduce stress. The substrate can be paper towels, cocofiber, peat moss, sphagnum, sandy soil, or reptile carpet.

Food/Water
The C.A. banded gecko dines on small crickets, small silkworms, waxworms, mealworms, and other small insects. Dust every other feeding with a calcium supplement, and dust every feeding for gravid females. Provide a small water bowl, and a small dish of calcium carbonate.

Breeding
The C.A. banded gecko breeds year round and females can produce up to 12 clutches a year! Incubate the eggs at 85 degrees F. Hatching should occur within 60 days.

The Texas Banded Gecko
(Coleonyx brevis)
Intoduction
The Texas banded gecko is native to West and South texas, parts of New Mexico, and northern Mexico. It is very similar in appearence to the western banded gecko, except that it has a shorter nose.

Housing
The Texas banded gecko can be housed in a ten-gallon aquarium, or medium plastic shoeboxes. Like all species of Coleonyx, the Texas banded gecko is a ground dweller and appreciates a horizontal oriented enclosure.

Heating/Lighting
The Texas banded gecko is nocturnal, UV lighting is not required, nor will it be used if offered to the gecko. Simple flourescent lighting will help regulate the day/night cycle. A warm end of 90 degrees F and a cool end of 70 degrees F provides effecient thermoregulation for the gecko. This can be accomplished with a heating pad or heat tape. The temperatures can be allowed to drop into the mid 60's at night

Cage Furnishings
The Texas banded gecko will hide in rock crevices, under rocks, and debris. Providing enough hiding areas will reduce stress. The substrate can be paper towels, sand, sandy soil, or reptile carpet.

Food/Water
The Texas banded gecko dines on small crickets, small silkworms, waxworms, mealworms, and other small insects. Dust every other feeding with a calcium supplement, and dust every feeding for gravid females. Provide a small water bowl, and a small dish of calcium carbonate.

Breeding
Brumation occurs in October and ends in April. This stimulates breeding and clutches are laid thorughout the year. The fertilized eggs are incubated at 85 degrees F and hatch within 60 days. The young have bold striping.

hope this helps.
e-mail me Coleonyx_Corral@yahoo.com if you are intersted in these geckos and having trouble finding one.

coleonyxcorral Oct 27, 2005 05:34 PM

some pix

1st and second are C. v. variegatus
3rd is bogerti

coleonyxcorral Oct 27, 2005 05:42 PM

the second pic is the hypo male

PHEve Oct 24, 2005 07:55 AM

Shes a cutie, Cringle is a central American banded

Cringle

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PoohBear03031 Oct 24, 2005 12:24 PM

She is a cutie. Where do you go for your info/ caresheets?
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7 Leos
Milo(my adult male) Mongo, Raptor,and Spaz
Popeye and Boo(named after Monster's Inc. Character)sex unknown, but I am pretty sure they are females.
Pumpkin the Patternless (he's a boy too.)

1 Female Sandfire X Blood Aboriginie Red Bearded Dragon. Tequila Sunrise, Tequila for short

1 dog
Baby (Peekapoo)

2 Cats
Mr. Kitty and Shelly (my adopted senior citizen. She's 14!)

I lost my baby blizzard before I even picked out a name. May he/she Rest in Peace

PHEve Oct 24, 2005 01:23 PM

There are care sheets everywhere for bandeds, just type the names in search, here is one for mine...

central american banded (Coleonyx mitratus)
Coleonyx mitratus

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PHEve / Eve

Contact PHEve

PoohBear03031 Oct 24, 2005 09:59 PM


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7 Leos
Milo(my adult male) Mongo, Raptor,and Spaz
Popeye and Boo(named after Monster's Inc. Character)sex unknown, but I am pretty sure they are females.
Pumpkin the Patternless (he's a boy too.)

1 Female Sandfire X Blood Aboriginie Red Bearded Dragon. Tequila Sunrise, Tequila for short

1 dog
Baby (Peekapoo)

2 Cats
Mr. Kitty and Shelly (my adopted senior citizen. She's 14!)

I lost my baby blizzard before I even picked out a name. May he/she Rest in Peace

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