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Albinos are probably the one morph that has consistantly held value for the longest. On top of being in demand - they are recessive and usually produce small clutches - thereby making them very hard to mass produce. Lately they have dropped about $150 a year so that would be about 10 years - but in all honesty I dont really see them getting any cheaper than $1000.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

I won't say never but I really don't think they will hit $500 for a long, long time, if at all.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

really really fast drop to noone cares anymore...$500 in 6 years....

but they won't.......they'll hang at $1500 to 1800 for a couple more years.....then to $1300 to 1500.........then hang at $1000 for awhile...then $800 for 2 years or more....then maybe $600 to $800....then after at least 10 years they'll be down to some people at $500..............

call me then......I'll sell them that cheap......2015......

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..........probably no less than 10 years......

......people have been selling them for a couple years for $1200 and up but you personally haven't seen them for $1200 online.....right......and you need to buy lots of them at that price,,know the person,,and have cash......

right?.......
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np

Drop so bad they post a stupid post like this. Get with the program. Why is everyone wanting these things to drop so fast? Just don't worrie about it and pony up the cash and get one instead of waiting for the price to drop to peanuts. just my 2 cents.
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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)...Man that was a nice one...gone
1.0 Cinnamon Pastel(Bryan Kollwitz)(05)
2.0 Mojave Ball pythons(05)
0.1 Spider Ball(04)(RDR)
1.0 Butterscotch Ghost(04)
1.0 Albino(05)(T. Heuring/bell line)
4.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
1.1 Wild Collected Adult Pastels(Ian G)
2.8 Orange Granites(05)
1.0 Yellow Belly(04)(Ian G)
2.0 Yellow Belly(05)(unproven)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's
13 baby 2005 PASTELS just HATCHED...4-8-05 and 5-10-05 (O left)

It will be as long as the breeders want it to be. Its all their fault! Blame them. Either that or blame God for making it so hard for the breeders to produce them!

In reality it is the market that sets the price and in the end it is the consumer that sets the price more than the breeder. How much is sometime worth - Economics 101 - It is worth as much as you can get someone to pay for it. Back years ago I started collecting sports cards. Dwight Gooden had a good rookie year and his card spiked to $100. I held one and sold one... Now... I don't think it is worth the match that you would strike to burn it! Supply/Demand One one buys, price goes down.

I love my ball python and he is not normal, he is special... in his own way! LOL, and if he keeps hitting his head on the mesh top when I am trying to feed him I am going to start thinking he is special in another way too!
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Bryan, Atlanta GA

1-0-0 Rescued Ball Python - Apep
0-1-0 Rescued Mountain Horned Dragon - Ki
0-0-1 Rescued Aggressive Bearded Dragon - Zeus
0-0-1 Rescued Non-Alpha Green Iguana - Bud
1-1-0 Rescued Rats... no wait... ROTTEN Little Cats - Ra, Bastet
0-0-1 Rescued Dieting Panda Hamster - Mr. Fluffy
0-1-0 Rescued Little Angelic Kitten - Isis
1-0-0 Horse... whoops... BIG Golden Retriever - Jake
0-1-0 Wife
2-0-0 Kids

Hey,

C-mon now, newcomers...please! Watch the forums and the classifieds for a few seasons (yes, patience now, that is YEARS!) before making ridiculous posts about the market. All these ludicrous market predictions/sky is falling posts just show your extreme ignorance of the market. Watch and LEARN. Albinos and hets have hardly dropped at all in 3 years.

Steve Harrison

There was nothing ridiculous about the question...snake morphs will drop in value as more are produced to meet the demand...that's how it's supposed to work. With albinos, it'll be a long, long time before that happens, but that's all the guy was looking for. It's not like he asked if they'd be $500 next year.

If anything's ridiculous, it's the fact that so many breeders try to kid themselves and others into believing that prices aren't supposed to ever go down.

-Anthony

>>Hey,
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>>C-mon now, newcomers...please! Watch the forums and the classifieds for a few seasons (yes, patience now, that is YEARS!) before making ridiculous posts about the market. All these ludicrous market predictions/sky is falling posts just show your extreme ignorance of the market. Watch and LEARN. Albinos and hets have hardly dropped at all in 3 years.
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>>Steve Harrison
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

Once albinos hit a certain price point, breeders will think the sky is falling and quit wasting their albino females on clutches of albinos. For example, if albinos were only worth $1,000 each, breeders would start running other morph males to their albino females. Why waste an albino female to make a clutch of albinos, when they could run a male spider (or whatever) to her?

Once that happens, supply begins to dry up and will no longer meet the demand...and then the price will inch its way back up.

In fact, that very scenario happened with ghosts. They were down to $600/1,200 each (male/female prices) four years ago and now they're at least double that.

Hopefully that made at least a little sense...

-Anthony
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

I'm getting the idea that not many albino females are being used to make albinos even now, that most have been produced with het albino females for a while. Anyone with adult female albinos care to post some info on their thinking and results?