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Which insects for a baby mali?

AlteredMind99 Oct 24, 2005 03:51 PM

I have a 5inch (STL) Mali, so far he is mowing down on his greens, seeds, pellets and beans. What should i give him for insects? At my disposal i have mealworms, crickets and silkworms...will any of these work?
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0.1 Bearded dragon (Hannabil)
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake (Morticia)
2.1 Leopard Gecko's (Pogo,Jeffrey Nothing, Louise)
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn (Autumn)
1.0 Blood Red Corn (Virus)
0.1 Bullmastiff (Asha)
4.1 Cats (Poe, Tucker, Abhid, Felicity, Emmy)

Replies (10)

beaverman Oct 24, 2005 04:54 PM

none

uro7 Oct 24, 2005 04:58 PM

NO insecte period, uros are herbavoires. While the will consume insect when young, their body just isnt designed to use animal protein. Problems that will occur are goute, kidney failure.
Try reading the care sheet provided at deerfern farms, it has everything (lighting, temps, diet, breeding, etc.) also try repticzone and look up uro_fan (works closely with Doug Dix of deer fern farms ).

purduecg Oct 24, 2005 05:04 PM

My understanding is that properly gut loaded small crickets would be appropriate to feed as an occasional supplement. As to how many, you get the vast gammut of responses. I do not feed my Uros animal protein, but I do give them the pretty bird finch food, which has quite a bit of protein in it, as a supplement to their food (and as a handy thing to feed them if I am out of greens and in a rush). I thought that the care sheet elluded to the probable appropriateness of feeding the occasional cricket, though I cannot remember for sure. I have no experience with the super worms or silk worms though.

Hopefully someone who does feed occasional crickets to juvies will speak up here. I do know that as long as he is eating everything else, he will most likely be a happy healthy Uro! lol. With poorly acclimated babies they will often refuse greens and only eat protein, which is bad news.

I am very glad to hear how well he is doing!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

uro7 Oct 24, 2005 05:30 PM

Unfourtantly Doug hasnt updated the site in some time. At repticzone uro_fan works with doug and has dicussed that doug nolonger feeds animal protein at all due to the health risk.

AlteredMind99 Oct 24, 2005 06:07 PM

Hm. guess i had it wrong then. all my research had turned up that babies and juvi's could have some insect matter, and that adults needed barely none.

Oh well, not feeding insects is way easier anyway. And his diet is pretty good right now, at least i think so.

He is eating:

Veggies! (so far mustard greens, carrots and squash, will also be including collards, dandelion and turnip greens, endive, escarole etc) Pretty bird finch pellets, white millet, variety of ground beans, Rep-cal juvi iguana pellets, and a bit of bee pollen sprinkled on top.

sound ok?
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0.1 Bearded dragon (Hannabil)
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake (Morticia)
2.1 Leopard Gecko's (Pogo,Jeffrey Nothing, Louise)
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn (Autumn)
1.0 Blood Red Corn (Virus)
0.1 Bullmastiff (Asha)
4.1 Cats (Poe, Tucker, Abhid, Felicity, Emmy)

uro7 Oct 24, 2005 08:11 PM

Endives and escrole make up the bulk of my food. With carrots, collard greens, yellow squash, zucinni,arugula (rivals dandelions),bok choy,and turnip greens being rotatated regulary. I also offer canary & finch seed mixed with juvi iguana food from bradley every three days.
I use bee pollen about once a week, its supposed to act as a appetite stumilant, i have heard that if its offered to often uro tend to ignore it.

Dont offer any beans, but feel thats a personnal choice.

purduecg Oct 25, 2005 08:33 AM

Sounds like a great diet to me. Where can I sign up to eat as well as the uro!?
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

AlteredMind99 Oct 26, 2005 08:04 AM

Lol. Well im glad it sounds good I feel much better now. I guess i wont offer any insects, which is fine by me
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0.1 Bearded dragon (Hannabil)
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake (Morticia)
2.1 Leopard Gecko's (Pogo,Jeffrey Nothing, Louise)
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn (Autumn)
1.0 Blood Red Corn (Virus)
0.1 Bullmastiff (Asha)
4.1 Cats (Poe, Tucker, Abhid, Felicity, Emmy)

uro7 Oct 26, 2005 09:16 PM

The bird seed I offer is Zupreen Finch & Canary,
Protein content is fairly low.
Crude protein 14%
Crude fat (min)4%
crude fiber (max)2.5%
moisture(max)10%

flbriaz Oct 29, 2005 04:22 PM

the pet shop owner who i bought my juvenile from fed hers crikets every day. At the time i didn't know how bad for them this was. However, I did not continue to feed him crikets, but he did become infested with round worms, nematoad eggs and eventually died. The vet said that the crickets could have harboured them and it was possible that he had them all along. So in my opinion, don't feed them any insects. It's not worth the risk.

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