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Hello...Just wondering if anyone knew of someone who is breeding the Papuans? If you know of someone could you include a web address or email, I will continue to search myself.

If you own some Papuans

Anything you would like to say about them?
Are they CB, and if so what did you pay for them?
Pics?

I'm trying.......got them together now. Lowered the temp a couple days ago, got a mister in there, also. Male is CB 12', paid $700 from a dealer I will never buy from again, because he used stock pictures and this one bears no resemblence to the picture he showed. Female came from a friend, was WC many years ago. Paid $600.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
0.1 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
1.0 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

I located a WC female, but I don't know if thats the way to get this party started. Jaykis, I would love to see some pics of yours if you have any? You have a nice collection, good choices.

The female is 7-8 ft. Supposedly only been in the country for a fw months. Apparently she eats MOST of the time, only live rats. She had some scale rot near he tail, being treated, also a few nics and scratches...Would you do it? I wouldn't be as opposed if it was a boa constrictor or bull snake or something that I have SOME experience with.

Did your WC female come with any problems or blemishes? How has she been health-wise and temperament? I have heard may people comment that the Paupans are super strong...

Her tail is a bit stubby, and she has some old scars. I got her through Don Hamper. At first she wouldn't eat for almost 4 mos, then took a live rat. She'll eat rabbits and GPs, but always needs a rat first. Temperment.....well, I don't trust either one. I CAN handle her and the male w/out gloves, but I usually use one for control near the front 3-4'. They ARE both strong, and will sometimes do a half-hearted strike at my glove...sometimes NOT so half-hearted They also "huff" like puff adders when disturbed. Both are 12', but the male is about 15-20lbs, the female is 36lbs. They need higher humidity than most animals, and will have skin shedding problems without it. I provide a humid box when they go into shed, which is obvious because of their color. Oh, they're also pretty smart, and like to go UP.
As to my collection, it's stuff I either like, or never had a chance to work with, as I stayed away from herps for 15 years up until 2 years ago. Got my first python about 34 years ago, been keeping herps for about 50 years (I was a kid...)
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
0.1 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
1.0 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Are you sure yoru male is CB at 12 foot? There have only been a handful of sucessful captive breedings in the US of this species, and the vast majority of the babies would not be old enough to have reached 12 feet yet. The price you paid was, what I would think, about right, for a Cb animal...but the size sounds off to me. You said you woudl not do biz with the seller again because he misrepresented the animal? I think you migh twan tto consider that your male isn't wild caught either. Regardless, it doens't really matter, but I would suggest you have him checked for parasites if you have not done this already.

Shawn

cheers,
gabriel

My 1.1 papuans are my favorites in my collection. Both are WC. The female, however, has next to no scarring, and was imported as a neonate, which I'm hoping will improve her chances of breeding. The male was WC as a young adult.

After moving cross-country, the female went off feed for six months, which was very unusual given her normally voracious appetite. She's feeding normally now, but the earliest I think she would be ready will be 2007. She is currently about 9' and 14 lbs. The male is 10-11' and about 17 lbs.

The female struck, non-stop, for the first three weeks I had her. In the two and a half years since that time, she has struck at me zero times.

The male, whom I acquired as a fresh import, has never struck at me.

Both are incredibly responsive, incredibly "aware" animals. As other posters mentioned, they are deceptively strong, and having them out and about very quickly becomes an exercise in furniture re-arranging.

Both cruise more than other animals in my collection. The male, which had somewhat extensive minor scarring, has cleaned up very nicely in captivity, and only faint discolorations remain from most of his nicks and cuts from the wild.

Everything I have heard suggests that these animals breed at a later age than similarly sized pythons.

I can't recommend them enough. For a long time, males were more difficult to find. I'm not sure if this is still the case, as I haven't been following the market lately.

I paid $375 for the acclimated female (462 gms when I got her), and she had been in the US for about seven months at that time. In fact, she may have been hatched in Jakarta from collected eggs.

I paid $275 for the male, and when I got him, he was quite a mess. He cleaned up quickly. He had an enormous parasite load, but it was relatively easily treated. At the time I purchased them, I had been looking unsuccessfully for CB animals for about one year.

About once or twice a year CB animals do become available, but they tend to go quickly.

Again, I can't stress enough how much a joy these guys are to work with.

My female is 36lbs.....a handful! Someone at a show recently said they had an 18 footer, but I didn't think they got over 15-16. Wouldn't tackle one that large by myself.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
1.1 Woma (Juvie female)
2.1 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.0 Angolan Juvie
1.1 Savu
1.1 Juvie Bloods
1.1 Juvie Balls
1.1 IJ Carpets
1.1 Coastal Carpets
1.2 Macklotts
1.1 Papuan Olives
0.1 Jungle Carpet
2.2 Scrubs (on breeding loan)
1.0 Jungle/Diamond cross
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC