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Is granite a genetic blood python morph? If so; How much do granites usually cost? What type of blood python is the granite gene most common in?
I have read that female sumatran red blood pythons can grow to over 9 feet. Is this true? I am yet to see one over four feet.

The closest granite looking blood out there is a marble blood, which has granite sides.There might be full granite out there but nothing for sale that I've seen.As for females getting up to 9 feet haven't seen that one yet but have seen them over 6' easy.Here's my big girl last year.She's 41 lbs, just under 7'

Awsome. How much do marbled bloods usually go for? Is it a genetic trait?

The marbles can run between $200-$400.Check out the bloodline.net.He has the baddest looking marbles I've seen.I have a decent pair of marbles I'll post some pics of here if I can find them on my disk.

Here's an old pic when I first got her.For some reason I coudln't get my picture larger from the site I use to upload.

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How old is your just under 7 ft female? What do you estimate her diameter to be?
There is a lot of contradicting information on the internet. Does anyone know of a good reliable website with information on blood pythons?I have heard that black blood pythons are a morph and that they are a subspecies. I have heard that Malasian bloods are the same as sumatran, I've heard they're different. I have heard each of them called the biggest subspecies. Any clarification on these subjects and others would be great.
Thanx.

How old is your just under 7 ft female? What do you estimate her diameter to be?
There is a lot of contradicting information on the internet. Does anyone know of a good reliable website with information on blood pythons?I have heard that black blood pythons are a morph and that they are a subspecies. I have heard that Malasian bloods are the same as sumatran, I've heard they're different. I have heard each of them called the biggest subspecies. Any clarification on these subjects and others would be great.
Thanx.

At this time there isn't really a good site with much info aside from care sheets. Black blood pythons or Sumatran Short Tailed Pythons are a seperate species Python Curtus as well as the Borneo Short Tailed Python aka Borneo Blood. Malasian bloods are a specific local of bloods, so in a sense all Malasian bloods are Sumatran bloods but all Sumatrans arent Malasian, following me here? Red bloods are supposedly the largest, but it seems like there are some fairly large animals of all the species in captivity.

Also a note on the granites. Granite is a recessive trait that resembles the marbled trait. I haven't seen any granites up for sale though I believe they would be about the same price as marbles. Here is a pic of my female granite on the top and a pic of my female marble on the bottom. Though you cant see the granites sides very well in the pic, it seems like there is alot more white in the sides as opposed to the marble with alot of black.

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"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

I'm no expert, but this is how I understand things stand at the moment:

Python brongersmai (Blood python) :
Found in southern Thailand and Malaysia as well as Eastern Sumatra (Indonesia) and adjacent off-shore islands such as Bangka. Genetically, this species is markedly different from the other two species (which are closely related)

Python curtus (Sumatran short-tail python, Black blood python etc etc):

Found in Western Sumatra. Separated geographically from Python brongersmai by a high mountain range that runs through the middle of Sumatra from north to south.
These are usually very dark or almost black as adults BUT - and this is new to me - there is apparently a 'dwarf' race with orange heads (that otherwise seem to resemble Borneo short-tails in colour) that are believed to originate from North West Sumatra. (Everyone still with me?) According to the Barkers, these orange-heads don't get much larger than 3 feet/1 meter in length. See www.vpi.com

Python breitensteini (Borneo short-tail python, Borneo blood python etc.)

Found on the island of Borneo, of which the northern part belongs to Malaysia and is called Sarawak, (plus independant Brunei) and the southern part belongs to Indonesia and is called Kalimantan. Sarawak and Kalimantan also appear to be separated by a mountain range, so Sarawak borneos may have the potential to be a different form than 'typical' Kalimantan Borneos. I have seen a picture of an animal from Sarawak (photographed in the wild) that was very dark, almost melanistic.

Hope this makes sense!

Phew! All that calls for a beer

Mark

The dark Python breitensteini I mentioned previously was photoghraphed in Sabah, not Sarawak. Sabah is the northern part of Malaysian Borneo. Check an atlas if this doesn't make sense!

Every time it gets 'plained, it gets more clear. Thanks. Also, is there anybody in the fancy presently stateside that has visited the aformentioned realms? If no, who wants to go? Palm oil cartel, eco-tourism, reptile "farms"...there must be a discount angle somewhere...