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Any news yet PHEve

fat_bastard Oct 26, 2005 10:51 PM

I've been following your progress with those U. Phant eggs and am (not-so)patiently waiting news. Whats the word?
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FB
(Watch this space for the raining viv)
0.1.1 Water Dragon (Jade, Kaltrex)
0.1.0 Hypomelanistic Corn (Willow)
0.1.1 Leopard Gecko (Barghesta [Patternless], unnamed)
1.0.0 Satanic Leaftail Gecko (Melkor)
0.1.0 Cat (Cleo)
0.1.0 Wife (Tammy)
(hmmm, not much testosterone in here...)

Replies (5)

umop_apisdn Oct 27, 2005 01:15 AM

im pretty sure she has henkeli eggs, not phantasticus. but i too wonder whats been up with eve lately. where have you disappeared to?!
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-Mike Martin
North Carolina

flamedcrestie Oct 27, 2005 07:11 AM

those things need to hatch ( or i'm gonna come open them )

PHEve Oct 28, 2005 11:21 AM

And yeah Mike, I have Henkeli eggs !

To tell ya the truth I just don't know whats happened. I took the eggs finally from my downstairs where it stayed 68- 71 at night and put them in a hovabator at 73 just to see if anything happens.

I have plenty of humidity going on in htere so thats cool.

Okay maybe you guys can help me out here, I took the eggs into a dark room several times last week and this, and used a penlight, I see half the egg looks clearish/empty and one half has the definite dark shape of leaftails, but I never see any movement.

A few of the eggs went from white to actually seeing a dark shape near the surface. I do not know if any are alive or if they just died in there????? The eggs are firm and beautiful still, no smell , Look great ????????

QUESTION, QUESTION...

I do not know what to do, leave them be or open one????

I'm stumped, funny I see little feet and all in one, and the long face and head, but nothing is happening. Never nay movement Maybe they have died.

What do you guys think it's really been a long time now. Since April for the first few, and May for another couple????

So that would make it 6 months for atleast 3 of the first eggs layed I can't see that being GOOD....

Thanks for asking, YOUR the BEST , I have just been trying to peek in making sure things are cool here but have been super busy !
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PHEve / Eve

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flamedcrestie Oct 28, 2005 12:19 PM

well, eve, i had a dilema awhile back with some crested eggs.... the eggs were quite undercalcified and within a few days of when i was expecting them to hatch ( usually takes mine 69-75 days) it was about 70 days and i looked in and one had a bit of a dent in it. it was fairly soft, so i opened it up and there was a fully formed dead gecko inside. it's clutchmate's egg was still however firm, so i decided to open it up. out popped a small gecko weighing in at 1 gram, where most of my other ones are 1.6 grams when they hatch. it's catching up to the others in size and is doing very well.
honestly, if i were you i wouldn't be able to take it anymore and i'd open just one to see what's going on. i know the uroplatus eggs are typically much harder shelled than the cresteds, so i could see them not getting soft or indenting if the gecko died, but usually they will mold or smell fairly quickly as well. so basically i would open one, but that's just me

umop_apisdn Oct 28, 2005 12:59 PM

this is quite a predicament. on the one hand, you (as well as all of us) want to know whats going on with the eggs. your incubation time has now come to double my normal incubation time. a few of my eggs from the henks did go bad within the past few months. i just actually had another hatchling come out less than a week ago, but its clutchmate has still not emerged. in one case, one of the geckos had started developing, and something just must have gone wrong because the egg cracked and started smelling. so you have candled your eggs and you see recognizable features. not only that but you say you can see it has gotten darker inside the eggs, which i have always noticed of the eggs of mine that have hatched. it's definitely a tough call. since it must be agonizing for you, id say maybe take whichever egg looks least convincing that it has a viable gecko inside, take a pin and poke a tiny hole in the side of the egg. take a whiff. personally, if it smelled bad i would go ahead and crack it. what i think is that if you have an egg that is fertile and the embryo dies, the egg will start to break down and thats when you get the smell, cracked egg, etc. now if you have an egg that seems fertile, however is taking entirely too long and such, it could be an infertile egg posing as fertile. one of my satanic clutches earlier this summer had one to hatch out, and the other didnt hatch out within a week of that, so i opened it. it was just filled with that white yolk, nothing had ever developed. it hadnt gone bad either, just sat there as if it was going to take its time.

the biggest problem i have with telling you to crack em open is the fact that ive heard of people having eggs taking upwards of 5 months to hatch. now you're even beyond that, and i know its gotta be killing you to find out what the heck is going on. when it comes down to it, none of us can really tell you with 100% certainty, but we can all cross our fingers for you.

best of luck, eve....it's gonna happen sooner or later!
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-Mike Martin
North Carolina

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