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Just wondering how many out there have 04s big enough to breed this year.

I have a few that were really big eaters. They are 1500-1800 grams, not sure if I am going to let them breed or give them another year. They were just always hungry, every time I opened their box they would charge me wanting to eat.
Becky
WFReptiles

I have a few that are between 1200-1400 that could go this year - but I'll be holding them back until next year.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

2004 females should not be bred even though they have the size and weight!

Whats the rush knowing they could produce 2-3 more eggs next year.

Brian A.

Thats a matter of opinion and you know what they say about opinions!

I dont have any 04s going this year personally.

i have a few that are in the 1000g range and they went off feed on their own 2 months ago so they don't even get the consideration of breeding, hopefully they will be in the 1600-1800 range next year and give me a few good eggs. I know of one large breeder that bred an 04 female in 04 and hatched out 5 perfect babies (oh yeah out of the babies 3 were worth over $25k ). I have an 05 female that is over 750g now. she has not been powerfed (feed every 5-7 days) and the rest of her clutch are all in the 350 gm range, she's just a fast grower.
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2.3 het pied (RDR, alan bosch x 2, BHB x 2)
1.1 het albino (ben siegel, gulf coast)
1.2 het citrus ghost(gulf coast line)
1.0 citrus ghost (gulf coast line)
0.1 graz pastel female
1.6 05 normal bp's
0.6 04 normal bp's
2.5 adult normal bp's (some need breeding to see if norm)
4 various corns
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (alan bosch)
1.0 american pit bull terrior
1.1 taco dogs (ankle biters)
1.0 grey cat
1.1 bearded dragons

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrior as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

There are studies from wild balls were many many females between 1000-1400 grams laid perfectly healthy clutchs of 7-13 eggs. Now grant it - it's unlikely that those balls were a year old - as studies indicate a slower growth rate in wild balls than captives most likely they were more mature than your average captive breeder female.

I don't think the question is whether or not it can be done but more - should it be done. Afterall there doesn't seen to be any research as to how much of a toll breeding young can take on a ball or if it will negatively affect their health or future reproduction. Is it ethical to put your snakes in (possible) jeopardy for your own profit? That is the question.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

i agree that one shouldn't put the snake's health on the back burner to make a profit. The snake that was bred last year was very similar to the one that I have that's just growing like crazy with no extra feeding. I think most people on this forum feed on a 5-7 day feeding schedule if not 3-5. I should have pointed out that the snake that bred at less than a year was born in jan and she was bred in dec, still young but produced an entirely good clutch and at last update is over 2500 gm now, she's just a monster of a grower, maybe it's something in the water, lol.
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2.3 het pied (RDR, alan bosch x 2, BHB x 2)
1.1 het albino (ben siegel, gulf coast)
1.2 het citrus ghost(gulf coast line)
1.0 citrus ghost (gulf coast line)
0.1 graz pastel female
1.6 05 normal bp's
0.6 04 normal bp's
2.5 adult normal bp's (some need breeding to see if norm)
4 various corns
0.1 brazilian rainbow boa (alan bosch)
1.0 american pit bull terrior
1.1 taco dogs (ankle biters)
1.0 grey cat
1.1 bearded dragons

a BAD dog is MADE not bred, support the American Pit Bull Terrior as the greatest breed of dogs on Earth!!!!!

3 I am going to breed...actually a ghost in setting on top of one right now..she shed yesterday......it's his first cruch......he is an 04 too....and he wasn't intrested in any girls yet..I think older women intimidate him yet.....he'll learn......

I have at least 5 het albino females that are NOT going to breed....no way......04's.......and a few more that won't go.......but as said.I will try 3....

yes I have a couple 03's I bought from other people that weren't fed well the first year and they aren't going to go this year yet either........

.......oh...and I feed MICE.........hahahahahaaaaa

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I have 2-3 '04 females in the 1000-1500 range. I may try breeding 1 of them, as I don't want to take the others off feed. We will see what happens.

They were all fed once a week on rats since I got them as CH hatchlings.

Jason

Hello,
We have 6 04's in the 1100-1300 gram range, and 2 04's in the 1700-1900 gram range. My 1900 grammer has already bred with my pastel once. My 1700 grammer is still eating a little, and will be going in with the pinstripe in a couple of weeks.

Good luck to everyone this season,
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Tim and Monica Bailey
Bailey & Bailey Reptiles
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