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Axanthic Genetic Stripe?

toshamc Nov 01, 2005 01:56 PM

Anyone done one? Working on one? Anyone think it would be a cool cross? Just wondering. I was thinking it'd be an interesting project.
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Replies (14)

BelgianBeer Nov 01, 2005 02:02 PM

Since Axanthism removes the yellow pigmentation and the genetic stipe is fairly gold I think it would be a fairly ugly mutation, but then again I think the axanthics are butt ugly anyway. And that would be like a Yaks Butt not Tyra Banks Butt.

toshamc Nov 01, 2005 02:05 PM

But thats just it instead of a yellow striped snake you'd get a silver striped snake - just thought that might be cool.
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0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

BelgianBeer Nov 01, 2005 03:00 PM

I don't think you would get silver as much as gray. Pewter pastels and some of the resulting morphs are much more likely to give silver.

RandyRemington Nov 01, 2005 09:11 PM

I really liked the anerythristic striped corn. Hopefully the axanthic striped ball python will be as nice.

John Q Nov 01, 2005 02:12 PM

I like axanthics and the idea of crossing / adding the axanthic gene to just about any morph. Stripes are just a little too pricey for me but they will come down.

johnavilla Nov 01, 2005 02:33 PM

I think you would get a much cooler looking snake if you mixed a gen stripe with a cinnimin and a pastel. The cinni,pastel crosses are a lot more silver than the axanthics and will probably hold there color better. I do think that an SK line axanthic/ gen stripe would look pretty bad a$$ though.
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oc-balls Nov 01, 2005 02:50 PM

I havn't seen one yet, but I think it would look cool!
Ken
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anthony james mc Nov 01, 2005 09:09 PM

G Stripe crossed into anything will be impressive I think.. I've been trying to decide if I want to do like everyone else and make a Bumblebee or two next year or just skip them alltogether and cross my Pastel females into my male G Stripe male , making Pastels Het for Stripe instead.. I would think they would be worth alot more than the Bumblebees would be (simply because Stripes are alot more valuable than Spiders and ALOT less common ) and doubt I'd have any trouble trading a Pastel Het Stripe for a well started Bumblebee.. Any good opinions on this dilemma folks??? Imagine what a Pastel Ghost G Stripe will look like, it'll take some time but they will ROCK..

nogoodteen Nov 02, 2005 05:03 PM

I'm just starting out breeding this years my first and a few weeks ago was the first lock up for me. Anyway I'd love to see a Genetic Stripe Pastel. I was thinking that once I could aford it I was going to work on it. But I know that many breeders will already have done it. But its the little things in life like makeing it anyway make me happy. Good luck with it I cant wait to see what one looks like.

Blake

RandyRemington Nov 02, 2005 07:38 PM

I think it was pastel het stripe that I heard have so far turned out to be particularly nice pastels. If there is some synergy there between the two genes maybe the pastel stripe (if the genes are not linked complicating the combo) will be super bright.

anthony james mc Nov 02, 2005 08:15 PM

Thanks for the input guys! Seems logical that a Pastel Het Stripe would be better looking than an average Pastel, reason being that the G Stripes are already alot lighter in coloration (high gold, and more intense yellow than a normal), so the Pastels should be very nice looking. Same result happens when you breed a nice high gold or high yellow normal to a Pastel, the Pastels produced are above average . I'm assuming it's because there is less melanin pigment in the lighter normals making the Pastel gene stand out that much more, and I agree the Genetic Stripes should do the same thing when combined with the Pastel gene... It's a project I think I must attempt to do , hopefully the odds are on my side , to have nothing but Het Stripes from a Pastel female would be a bit frustrating I'd think, it's a chance I'll have to take I guess! Anthony McCain-McCain's Reptiles.

RandyRemington Nov 02, 2005 10:18 PM

I'd do it just for the weird factor but I think it makes monetary sense too.

Lets use the theoretical perfect split 4 egg clutch.

With pastel X pastel you get 2 pastels and a super. Say one pastel of each gender so maybe $2,000 worth there. I don't know on the super, maybe $10,000? So about $12,000 for the clutch IF you hit the odds and produce a super. Maybe you'll be lucky and get two or maybe none.

But even if you get skunked and only produce 4.0 het stripes with no pastels (not likely) won’t they be worth that? If half of them are females even better. And of course you would expect some pastel het stripe.

anthony james mc Nov 02, 2005 11:30 PM

I agree with you Randy, but it's not the Pastel x Pastel cross I'm going back and forth about it's the fact that I have a adult Spider male that could make Bumblebees with the female Pastels that's got me questioning which is best.. Granted eveyone and his brother will have bees by next season and not everyone is in a position to make Pastels 100% Het G Stripes this soon.. I only have a couple female Pastels that will go for sure a third may go late but that's a long shot.. I'm thinking take the G Stripe to the 2 biggest females now and in the spring if the 3 rd female Pastel is big enough then run her on both a Cinnamon and a Spider and roll the dice! This way your chances of having 3 or maybe 4 Pastels Het G Stripe from the 2 female Pastels that are over 1500 grams would not be unheard of, putting me in a good position to produce Pastel Stripes within the next 2-3 years (taking a Pastel Het Stripe male to Het Stripe adult females that will be plenty large 4 year olds by then). I just hope this 2 year old G Stripe male can cover 7-8 girls , cause that's what he'll have on his plate this season! He's still a virgin from what I've been told he's never seen a female yet , but he's around 800 grams so we shall see! I'm thinking of starting him soon as the Pastels are already big enough and the Poss Het Stripe females are right behind them as several are knocking on 1500 real hard... It's going to be a nail biting winter to say the least! Anthony McCain-McCain's Reptiles.

blazingreptiles Nov 01, 2005 11:53 PM

I plan to do this morph, not to sell, but as my pet! I have no idea when it will actually get done, but for me I am looking at 5-6 years. Yay blazingreptiles axanthic stripe in 2011! lol
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