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I saw an add with a normal that had given a clutch of 5 pastels and 2 normals. But the mother of the clutch was a normal, it didn't say she was het pastel or anything? What is this about, can you get pastels by breeding a pastel and a normal? explaination would be appreciated. thank you

Okay, I know others know alot more about it than I do but here it is. Pastel is a Codomanint (spelling?) trait, not Resesive so there is no hets. You breed a Pastel to a normal you'll get normals and pastels. Suposadly 50/50 split but normaly dont trun that way. You breed a Pastel to a Pastel you get, correct me if I'm wrong, 50% Pastel, 25% normal, and 25% Super Pastel. Like I said I know that others know alot more about the subject than I do and I'm sure others will go more indepth.

Hope this helps you,
Blake

I have seen many Pastel siblings sold in the classifieds. Are these "normal Pastel sibblings" able to produce Pastels or are they just normals?
Thank you
Christine
Tails With Scales Reptiles
www.tailswithscales.com

np
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1.1 Balls (1.0 het clown 0.1 normal)
1.1 Kittys and
0.1 WC Human
"I need evaluation...and dinner; and by dinner I don't meen gnome heads!"

in most cases, it's just a way of signifying that they are normal cb, produced by the people selling them.
Jeremy
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Isn't it cooler that serpent's don't walk anymore?
(Genesis 3:14)

Yes, you can get Pastels breeding a pastel to a normal. Pastels are co-dominant, which means odds are with each given egg you will have a 50% chance of having a visual like a pastel or 50% to have a normal. There will be no "hets" for co-doms, it is one or the other.
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1.0 Pastel
1.0 het Pied
1.5 Classic
1.0 Okeetee Corn
1.1 Butter Corn
0.1 type A anerythristic corn
0.0.1 babycurus jacksoni

Exactly...No hidden genetics for pastels (or spiders for that matter).

Actually,pastels are hets(heterogenous for the trait)
Super pastels are homogenous for the trait.

Heterogenous Homogenous
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Pastel Super pastel
Cinnimon pastel Super cinnimon pastels
het albino albino
yellowbelly Ivory
het piedbald Piebald
het hypo Hypo
Mojave Lucy
lesser Platinum

Heterogenous to normal produces 50% hets and 50% normals(on average).
Homogenous to normal produces all heterogenous offspring.
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Tinstaafl, LOL one of my teachers tought us that in HighSchool. . .one of the only teachers I liked.

Teacher ehh...damn i feel old now.lol
Tinstaafl? ..typo?(or was he actually spelling it that way?)

That same writer was responsible for the creation of waterbeds btw.He fully described the idea as "gravity beds".In his novel "Stranger in a strange land"(It's a Martian/Tarzan story.)...No patent,the copywrite was good enough legally.

He also wrote "Starship Troopers" (...in the 40's ?)

I'm waiting for "The number of the beast" to be advertised as a new movie! Would really have to be a mini series though...oh wait a second,they did that already..."sliders" lol
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Yeah he spelled it "There Is No Such Think As A Free Lunch". I just thought he made it up lol I didnt know it was big. I think he tought us that in Econ. maybe?
Blake

You say:

lesser Platinum

I thought it would be:

Lesser Platinum = BEL (Blue Eyed Lucy)

I dunno though...RDR confuses me when he talks about the hidden gene stuff. I'm pretty sure that we'll need a few more years to find out. Right?

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Ryan Farris

Your right about the BEL.

They also make Platinums....the question is,which one is created due to the "hidden gene"? Bels,or Daddys?

I get the feeling that BELs may be in fact be a Platty Daddy/ leucistic combination.
That is to say...maybe the lucy is covering up the daddy...who knows yet...
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

I got Bees on the brain tonight or something.
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Actually, the homozygous form of lesser is a blue eyed leucistic. Plattys are produced by breeding a lesser with a platty or a platty sib. You are correct about all of the others though.

-Andrew Varela, Serpentine Exotics.

Check out clutch #5 on Ralphs birthing records page for 2005.

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/birthing_record/pythons.asp

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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

Nope...i am indeed incorrect. (Clutch 42)

So then it is the Daddy that this hidden gene creates(and not the BELs).
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Charles Glaspie

Tanstaafl:
"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.