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Boaphile Monstertail?

elgrano Nov 03, 2005 06:58 AM

I am thinking on getting a Pastel Female that came from a Pastel X Boaphile Monstertail. What does the "Boaphile Monstertail" stands for? Do you guys think it will be a nice morph?
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bcijoe Nov 03, 2005 09:45 AM

Go to www.Boaphile.com and check out their site...

The monstertail is a featured 'morph' or line of Boas that Jeff works with.

Typically, as I see it, the monstertail came about from a female which had saddles that appeared to look like tail blotches.... not big, red tail blotches, but those that meet in between the saddles and tail blotches... well these seem to go all the way up..
another thing is that the red that is usually common only on the sides of the tail, usually goes up all the way to the neck and is also red.

Jeff has bred these into pastels and hypos and has made some of the REDDEST animals like this.

The gene seems to add red somehow, or let it be more visible, and also makes for much bolder pattern. Bold, meaning, very deep, well outlined and well pronounced, yet veryu contrasting to the normal color of the snake... not just dark.

You can read more about it from the originator. Great line of boas.

For you to buy one and cross it with something else, this is not a demanding 'morph' that will make you rich overnight, if that's what you are looking for.

It is however a nice snake and can probably add that when breed to another boa.

hope that helps...

Joe
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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
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matthewpope Nov 03, 2005 06:22 PM

...what is a "nice morph", per your post? I am confused.

DaveyFig Nov 03, 2005 06:24 PM

Monstertail refers to the line that produced it, and has almost nothing to do with the tail, other than the tail of the matriarch of the line. Everything from her, or any of her progeny is called monstertail, because the are of the monstertail line.The line was named after her. There are a lot of snakes with big tails out there, and they aren't monstertails because they did not come from her line. There are also a lot of small tailed boas that are monstertail line, and sold as monstertail x whatever.
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Davey Giltner

topnotchboas Nov 03, 2005 06:47 PM

That the phenotype of the matriarch female (IE. Big Saddles and Big/Many Tail Splotches) is defenitely genetic (polygenic) and what makes monstertails so great. In fact, one of the monstertail hypos I have seen is probably my all time favorite boa because of its huge red tail saddles and tail splotches.

I agree that monstertail is a bloodline and that anything trace backed to that lineage is deemed monstertail. There are no phenotypic parameters that define what is and isnt a monstertail, its just a bloodline. But what makes this bloodline special is that it throws boas with big contrasty saddles and big/many tail splotches. Will every boa from this bloodline throw such boas? Not necessarily.

Here are some examples of monstertail hypos, pictures I took at the NARBC show in Chicago. They do some justice to these boas but you really have to see them in person to fully appreciate them. These are direct descendants of the matriarch female that Davey refered to.

DaveyFig Nov 03, 2005 06:54 PM

There are some really nice monstertails, and monstertail hypos out there, but the same thing can be said for any litter of boas produced. There will always be some snakes that have smoking tails, and some plain Janes. That is the fun of the hobby.
Monstertail, as admitted by Mr.Ronne himself is a bloodline, not a phenotype. That was one of the arguements I saw against someone else wanting to produce monstertails anyway.

"She is the "Monster Tail" and her descendants are also Monster Tails. The term "Monster Tail" is not used so much as a description as it is name of a specific bloodline."
Monstertail

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Davey Giltner

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