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GENETIC PAIRING AND WHAT TO DO?

Red_Hydra Nov 04, 2005 05:41 AM

I am hoping some of the genetic gurus can help me out on picking the best projects I can try this year. A few ideas from you advice will be considered once I hear all the possiblities from these pairings. I have 3 males and 8 females to pair up and wonder what you would do with these morphs and why would you go that route in that pairing. I would also like to say thank you in advance.

1. Male - Snow Boa
2. Male - Motley Boa
3. Male - Sunglow Boa

1. Female - Salmon Double Het Sunglow Boa #1
2. Female - Salmon Double Het Sunglow Boa #2
3. Female - Salmon Double Het Snow Boa
4. Female - Salmon Het Albino Boa #1
5. Female - Salmon Het Albino Boa #2
6. Female - Salmon Triple Het Boa (Stripe, Snow, and Sunglow) #1
7. Female - Salmon Triple Het Boa (Stripe, Snow, and Sunglow) #1
8. Female - Pastel Boa

Sorry for all the genetic mind pressure but if someone could help that be great. Basically looking for the best pairings and why, and if possible the litter outcome from these pairing would be great as well. Thank you.

Replies (13)

Ruben14 Nov 04, 2005 09:57 AM

Not to be rude but if you really owned these animals you would know that females 1,2,4,and 5 are the same thing and so are 3,6 and 7,. Also, if you had the kind of cash to buy these animals you'd think you know the outcomes of each breeding. I just don't see someone buying these animals not knowing what the genetic possibilities are. Maybe this is why you didn't get any responce?

Ruben Michel

Ruben14 Nov 04, 2005 10:59 AM

Females 3,6 and 7 are the same except for the het stripe in 6 and 7 but that still makes no difference since none of the males are striped or het stripe.

Ruben Michel

rainbowsrus Nov 04, 2005 11:02 AM

The het stripe is a moot point since none of your males have any stripe genes. Only advantage is the het stripes must have come from the stripe line which is a strong breeding line.
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife
0.2 kids
4.12.136 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (OK, I'm only keeping a few of the 136, just tickled pink with my production this year)
1.1 Ball python
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Nov 04, 2005 11:00 AM

And even assuming he does have these animals and didn't figure it out in advance. He's realy only got three possible projects:

1 - snowglow/avalanche
2 - sunglow
3 - motley/salmon (with possible hets for albino/anery)

Not that those would be bad projects.
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Thanks,

Dave "Rainbows-R-Us"

0.1 Wife
0.2 kids
4.12.136 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (OK, I'm only keeping a few of the 136, just tickled pink with my production this year)
1.1 Ball python
0.1 BCI "Elvira" normal from 1989
1.0 BCI albino / het-anery
0.1 BCI Hypo / het-albino
0.1 BCI Anery / het-albino
0.1 BCI Hypo (possible super)
1.0 BCI albino het stripe
1.0 BCI salmon hypo
0.1 BCI ghost

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Caden Nov 10, 2005 02:19 PM

would you mind enlightening me about what an avalanche is?

Red_Hydra Nov 05, 2005 02:25 AM

Opps, your right not sure why I typed it that way other than I was copy/pasting it and did not review the post before posting it. My mistake, your right most of the Salmons are the same thing. And indeed I know the pairings I plan on doing just wanted to hear other peoples views and reasons. As for the genetic outcome its still very complicated for me, so I was hoping to hear some of that.

bcijoe Nov 04, 2005 10:06 AM

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
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jayf Nov 04, 2005 10:50 AM

im not sure exactly what female 6 and 7 are exactly because if they were as you listed them they would be quadrupal hets, because you listed het snow which means they are het albino and anery, and being het stripe and het salmon would make them quad. hets. i would breed both of these females to the male snow boa. this way you will make the most snows (and salmon snows)and the most money.

the person in teh other post was correct, females 1,2,4, and 5 are the same. i would breed two of them to the sunglow male. so you would make mroe sunglows and some super sunglows.

lastly, i would breed the motley to female three and one of the remaining that didnt get bred by the sunglow male. this way you will get salmon motleys and possible het motleys.

the reason behind my suggested pairings is because i think each male would be able to breed two of the females each. the way i chose the pairings is by the value of the litters that would result. to me it seems kinda werid that you would spend so much money on snakes and not know how you wanted to pair them, but its more snakes then i can afford.

if you want the numbers best bet is to ask the guy (sorry cant remember his name right now) who has the genetics program. he responded to a genetics post recently. this is just too much for me to sit and figure out all the pairings by hand.

scottbradley Nov 04, 2005 12:13 PM

First off the Salmon/Hypo het Stripe, Albino and Anery has not been produced yet and the Salmon/Hypo 100% het Snow was first produced last year and that would make them 18 month old females and if you have them and there big enough to breed then you power feed them and that would show me you don't have any respect for these animals just my opinion Scott

beastie Nov 04, 2005 12:52 PM

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Psycodelic Nov 04, 2005 01:13 PM

I was thinking the same thing... the triple het females that have been produced so far would not be old enough yet, unless... I don't know!!! Post some pics please Red_Hydra I wanna see your collection.

-Greg Reinert-

jayf Nov 04, 2005 02:48 PM

i hope that wasnt directed towards me. i didnt claim to have any of the animals i was just giving my opnion on pairing them up. i have no idea what is and what isnt produced. i am still in the dark as to how everyone knows about all these things so fast, i just find them out when they appear here or on the classifides.

scottbradley Nov 04, 2005 06:05 PM

n/p

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