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I'm very interested in keeping these animals, as I think they are among the prettiest snakes in North America. I've heard they can be expensive, and are a challenging species to keep healthy and happy. Is this true?
Any info would be much appreciated- Photos would be great too!!
Take care,
Justin
Hello Justin,
I just found two heads sticking out this morning, took a little longer to incubate then previous years so i was a little worried. I don't find them any more difficult to keep and breed them my subocs, and actually have had a little better luck with breeding them then my subocs so far. I will probably get a few pictures of them hatching out this weekend and will be posting them on my site, I'll try to get a few and post on here for you too. They are one of my favorite rat snakes, in the future i plan on only working with several localities of triaspis, a few rosaliae and a lot of subocs. But then again I see other rat snakes being posted and just have to have those too, hahaha. It's a great addiction to have, just gets expensive.
Have a good weekend,
Gregg F.
>>I'm very interested in keeping these animals, as I think they are among the prettiest snakes in North America. I've heard they can be expensive, and are a challenging species to keep healthy and happy. Is this true?
>>
>>Any info would be much appreciated- Photos would be great too!!
>>
>>Take care,
>>
>>Justin
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Gregg F.
Gregg,
That's awesome. I had sent this person an e-mail in hopes of getting you a referral. When I logged off, you had already respended to him at the same exact time.
I feel you on wanting to only work with desert rats. Let me know if you ever come across any axanthic bajas. I don't know where they went. Everyone I have talked to that had some doesn't have them any more. Maybe they died??
Later,
Dusty
Thanks Dusty,
I will let you know if I ever find any axanthic bajas, but I have had the same problems as you. Everyone i've talked to does not nkow of any or where the orginal animals went. Same with the anery situla, I talked to a few people about those, including Klaus Schulz a few years back, and tehy seemed to have possibly died off? I hope they are still out there, amazing looking snakes that is for sure. All that is left is my subocs to hatch out, so hopefully in about 10 days or less i'll be very happy again to see those little guys peering out at me!
Have a good weekend Dusty,
Gregg
>>That's awesome. I had sent this person an e-mail in hopes of getting you a referral. When I logged off, you had already respended to him at the same exact time.
>> I feel you on wanting to only work with desert rats. Let me know if you ever come across any axanthic bajas. I don't know where they went. Everyone I have talked to that had some doesn't have them any more. Maybe they died??
>>Later,
>>Dusty
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Gregg F.
Are the triaspis as layed back and calm as subocularis I really would like to get into triaspis and rosalia some day.My favorite
north american rats.Also I have a pair of subocs that should go next year and have heard they are late breaders.What month should I introduce the pair?Ilive in Pa., if it means anything.
Hello,
I live in PA also, and introduce my subocs in mid summer, around June. But they don't seem to breed until July (if you want to e-mail me please do and i'll get my notes out when i'm at home and send you more details), but the eggs are still incubating for this year, due to hatch in about a week hopefully.
My triaspis aren't as laid back as my subocs, but I also have a lot more subocs then triaspis so I can't say for sure on them as a whole. My male triaspis seem to be more laid back then my adult females, but the babies seem to be pretty good about handling too. cb babies seem to do great once held for a few minutes, i'm sure with a little more handling and more cb generations they will become very calm too. My rosaliae are usually pretty skittish, and my honduran triaspis is just mean, hahaha. I really like working with the triaspis though and the one or two that are not so easy to hold just make it more fun at times. Please let me know if you have any other questions or shoot me an e-mail next spring about your subocs, I would like to get some of your notes to compare with mine if that is okay with you. Good luck with them!
Have a good one,
Gregg F.
>>Are the triaspis as layed back and calm as subocularis I really would like to get into triaspis and rosalia some day.My favorite
>>north american rats.Also I have a pair of subocs that should go next year and have heard they are late breaders.What month should I introduce the pair?Ilive in Pa., if it means anything.
>>
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Gregg F.
>>Are the triaspis as layed back and calm as subocularis I really would like to get into triaspis and rosalia some day.My favorite
>>north american rats.Also I have a pair of subocs that should go next year and have heard they are late breaders.What month should I introduce the pair?Ilive in Pa., if it means anything.
>>
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Gregg F.
I'm very interested in these animals although I've never seen one in person. I plan to get a pair as soon as I can. I got some very informational emails and checked out some good websites... beautiful animals indeed.
Thanks again everyone.
Take care,
Justin
Yes, I know this is the Rat Snake forum, but I just love to post pics of my Texas Indigo, Dixie... enjoy!!
Good luck on the triaspis Justin, they are very nice snakes to work with in my opinion. Good looking Indy, I just bought my first one this year too, can't wait to see and handle it as an adult!
Have a good day,
Gregg
>>I'm very interested in these animals although I've never seen one in person. I plan to get a pair as soon as I can. I got some very informational emails and checked out some good websites... beautiful animals indeed.
>>Thanks again everyone.
>>
>>Take care,
>>Justin
>>
>>Yes, I know this is the Rat Snake forum, but I just love to post pics of my Texas Indigo, Dixie... enjoy!!
>>
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Gregg F.
I was recently blessed with a male green rat from a very good friend, the animal is doing well and eating regularly. Its about 30" long. I too am looking for folks who work with these guys, I know lots of people hunt em but how many are seriously breeding them, taking notes, making good observations (both wild and captive)and documenting what they see? Lets get some threads going on these guys and the other desert rats since there is so very little done with them compared to the other elaphe.
Lateralis
Hello Lateralis,
How is that male coming along that you received? I am trying to take notes here and there on my adults and will get some on the new clutch too as far as length, tail length and weight goes once they have shed the first time. Here are some details on my adult males for now, still no weight but I'll try to get that here soon too and post all of this on my site. I also will be working on getting some details for my adult and baby subocs and rosaliae. Anyone have notes on the breeding size and weights of subocs and rosaliae? I have a few that I'm not sure about breeding next spring but when compared to my other adults they might just be smaller but plenty big enough to breed. Any notes would be greatly appreciated on those guys! Male #1 is 37 inches total, vent to tail tip is 10 inches, tail percentage of total body length is 27%. Male #2 is 32 inches long, tail tip to vent is about 8.25 inches, tail percentage of total body length is about 26%. Anyone else with notes please jump in!
Thanks again, and have a great day.
Gregg F.
>>I was recently blessed with a male green rat from a very good friend, the animal is doing well and eating regularly. Its about 30" long. I too am looking for folks who work with these guys, I know lots of people hunt em but how many are seriously breeding them, taking notes, making good observations (both wild and captive)and documenting what they see? Lets get some threads going on these guys and the other desert rats since there is so very little done with them compared to the other elaphe.
>>Lateralis
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Gregg F.
Maybe you have seen this pic before. Adam took the picture a while ago before I bought him. I'll post some updated pics (he is bigger now) when I get them resized.
He is of Loma Alta lineage and is an '03.
I'll try to get some weights in the next few weeks...if I can. Semester finals aren't too far away, so it's about to be "Cram Fest 2005". LOL
Later,
Dusty
Hello Dusty,
I don't remember seeing that pic before, good looking suboc! I hope to get an albino or three next fall. I have been looking for a lone male but at this point figured i might as well wait and try to produce my own. Good luck with your finals, the end of the semesters are always fun aren't they, lol. I have to cram after the holidays for my real estate license test, can't wait for that! Post some new pics when you get a break.
Have a good one,
Gregg
>>Maybe you have seen this pic before. Adam took the picture a while ago before I bought him. I'll post some updated pics (he is bigger now) when I get them resized.
>> He is of Loma Alta lineage and is an '03.
>> I'll try to get some weights in the next few weeks...if I can. Semester finals aren't too far away, so it's about to be "Cram Fest 2005". LOL
>>Later,
>>Dusty
>>
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Gregg F.
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