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Translucents...

beardielover13 Nov 06, 2005 04:14 PM

How much does a translucent go for and are they just as hardy? Thanks.

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pixiebabelove Nov 06, 2005 07:45 PM

From what I've seen, they're pretty pricey. I haven't really seen translucents for sale, but I saw hets for I think $300 each at a show in August. There was a pair of beardies where only the male was a translucent for $1,500

pdragon1 Nov 06, 2005 09:17 PM

The transluscents available now are much stronger than the first generation ones. I have produced my third generation trans by using unrelated hets, and produced some of the strongest trans I have ever seen. They are totally proportionate in every way, the eyes are dark, they grow like weeds, and the color is intense.They are pricey because they are not easy to breed. You get a variety of different forms of trans, so the ones that are super trans with blue eyes, pink lips etc., are rare. It is similar to breeding pied ball pythons.

pixiebabelove Nov 07, 2005 01:17 AM

Wow, super translucents? Do you have any pictures?

You mentioned that the translucents you are producing are proportionate in every way... were first generation translucents not proportionate?

I don't know much about the history, etc of translucents so this is all very interesting to me.

pdragon1 Nov 07, 2005 01:39 PM

The original trans that I started these animals from were pretty messed up. My goal was to breed these animals to the strongest dragons that I had. One of the male trans bred with a huge orange female. A female trans bred with a hypo/pastel male. The hypo/pastel breeding was probably not the wisest descision,being that I am breeding mutation to mutation. The offspring from the orange female did excellent, they grew super fast, ate well, and really showed no sign of weakness. When I bred these hets together I produced my first trans. I took the strongest fastest growing males, and bred them to multiple females. I wanted the trans to be perfect in every way, stocky, fat tails, fast growth, both eyes blue, no short tails or heads, large size, and eating well. Basically, most of my breedings come from different hets. The hypo/patsel breeding was mostly a failure, I got one perfect male that I still use as a breeder. I use him to breed with other trans cross hypo/pastel.
These trans lack white pigment. Some have no white at all, which I call these the super trans. When they are little babies, you can see the organs and everything.As they get bigger, they lose some of the trans, but still look weird. Sometimes, the skin will take a blue or grey hue instead of being clear. Also, when you remove the white, the colors underneath look intense, almost fluorescent. Also, both eyes are a dark blue. I get others that hatch with white heads with trans bodies, some with scattered patches of white all over. I have one that hatched blue, like a panther chameleon. There is so many variations, that I can't keep the breeding in one direction. This is the reason why everything has a different price. I see the future of dragons leaning toward ball python morphs. There is a number of projects that I am working on with these things. I also definately plan to post some pictures soon. It is very hard to explain without some visual aid. Any questions just ask, and I will try to get back as soon as I can. phantomdragon@cox.net
Josh

pixiebabelove Nov 07, 2005 09:49 PM

Oh wow, so okay from what I can gather, you've hatched out something like a translucent piebald? That sounds pretty crazy. I'd love to get my hands on one of those haha. One day, when I win the lottery.

alphadragon Nov 08, 2005 01:02 AM

I think what he is saying is that Translucents are variable like piebald ball pythons. I will let Josh explain it though.
-Randy
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duncanGSI Nov 07, 2005 05:23 AM

First of all, thanks for your reply at the genetics page.

Do you have translucents available for sale at the moment?
I'm very interested in buying a 1 or 2 to ad to my collection.

Please send me an email: dsmol@chello.nl

Thanks
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