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11/7/05 - Several animals were taken from the collection of Gail Thorpe @ Renaissance Reptiles. Some of these animals were part of a joint project with NERD.

The missing animals include:

Spider Mojaves
Pastel Mojaves
Paragon Ball

This matter is being seriously & thoroughly investigated at this moment. These animals are STOLEN and anyone receiving them will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (jail time). We have pictures & video documenting each & every animal stolen for identification purposes.

If you have any information regarding these animals contact us at 603.382.2772 ext 71

Thank you!
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www.newenglandreptile.com

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope that the ball python community comes together to find this creep. Good luck with your search as I know we will be all on the look out. Keep your head up guys. Sooner or later someone will start talking. What city was the theft in? You'll have better chances with those who are more familiar with the breeders in the area.

Regards,
Michael Ibanez

and the rest of the gang for a swift and Healthy recovery of these priceless animals, (damn,the Paragon)? I wish for a even swifter act of justice once the culptrits are caught.
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Awww Geeeez!!! Not Again? I own a really BIG knife. If they're caught can I draw an' quarter em?? I'm very sorry for your loss guys. this [bleep] stinks.

Quig

Oh NO, the TOS Gods bleeped me!!! Sorry guys.uig

Jeez I hope you catch those guys, serriously, how much money is that worth all together??? It must have been people who knew about the snakes and/or project. What kind of hobby is this? People jacking snakes now? Now I see how serrious ball pythons are, I just like them because they're nice. Would really help if you told us where this is happening. Someones not going to sell it if there smart, what they'll do is keep breeding and breeding and breeding untill they get there initial stock worth well into the hundred thousands, THEN they will sell them after over breeding. I hope they catch that crook.

replying to the message preceeding mine, it's black market animal trading....they wouldn't have to sell them publicly, obviously they already had a buyer setup.... nobody just steals expensive/rare items and just holds onto them... i believe the value of the snakes way surpasses the cash value equivalent to a felony

You should post pics of the stolen snakes so people dont buy a hot snake. This can help identify the snakes if anyone were to try and sell these high end morphs. Best of luck in the recovery.

Late

Nate

I hope you find the thief and he gets what he deserves!!! Ron
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The Crawl Space

Wow.
I didnt know someone could be that big of an A*ss in this buisness. That just really sucks. I hopw you guys find the loser.

Hey, Sorry to hear about that. Although would you mind posting pictures of what the snakes that were taken look like? Not only for us to keep an eye out for but I havent seen a Spider Mojave or the Paragon Ball.

Thanks Erik
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Erik Strait
www.EriksReptiles.com
Email- Erik@EriksReptiles.com

I keep and breed all kinds of crested morphs, Henkeli leaf-tail geckos, Mossy leaf-tail geckos, Lined leaf-tail geckos, and ball python morphs!

That really sucks, the paragon ball was AWESOME looking.. The person who stole it must be pretty stupid, considering he'll never be able to reproduce and sell any offspring from it.. That's a shame, just lost an awesome new morph because of some idiot.. Hopefully they'll realize it's worthless to them and turn it in somewhere...
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Joe Lydon

The snakes that Renaissance Reptiles have is on their website. The pics are there... They are awesome, and rare enough to be able to know what they are quickly.

Check out www.renaissancereptiles.com
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Balls for Life, Baby!

how exactly the theft occurred? This could go a long way in thwarting the thiefing piece of crap's next theft attempt.

Was the thief posing as a customer?
Was the home burglarized?

This is sad. Truly sad.

BB
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I agree completely with Bill about posting too much, but is there anyway that we can get more info on where they where taken from? I could not find their address on their site and it might help if people in that area knew it.
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Bryan, Atlanta GA

1-0-0 Rescued Ball Python - Apep
0-1-0 Rescued Mountain Horned Dragon - Ki
0-0-1 Rescued Aggressive Bearded Dragon - Zeus
0-0-1 Rescued Non-Alpha Green Iguana - Bud
1-1-0 Rescued Rats... no wait... ROTTEN Little Cats - Ra, Bastet
0-0-1 Rescued Dieting Panda Hamster - Mr. Fluffy
0-1-0 Rescued Little Angelic Kitten - Isis
1-0-0 Horse... whoops... BIG Golden Retriever - Jake
0-1-0 Wife
2-0-0 Kids

I hope you do catch the people who did this. I have seen many cases like this and they usually do catch the people. You mention that anyone who may purchase these snakes may be prosecuted to the fullest extent which may include jail time well from my experience that is almost impossible. To prove that someone purchased the snakes knowing they were stolen would be very hard to do in a case. But thats neither here nor there, I really hope you find the people who did this and I hope you keep us all informed on any updates you may have.

I hope you guys catch them. But what is a "Paragon"? I've never seen or heard of it.

Good luck,
Blake

So how many posts is that?lol

Anyway, IF, they were stolen, Sorry to hear it.

I would like some more info.

Was it a break in? Was it an inside job? Was there more then one onwer?

No matter what, I hope the snakes are ok, and this gets worked out.

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PHWyvern

I'm sorry to hear about that your snakes have been stolen

I hope you guys are able to catch the person responsible for the crime

I'll be more then happy to send ya a pair of pliers
and a hammer when jerks are caught!

I don't know much about the paragon and their website is under construction. Has the paragon ever been bred or was it a totally one of a kind animal? Who owns the animals that sired it? Just curious if the morph is totally lost or just set back a few years.

It is absolutely despicable that people steal snakes.

Scumbags!

From what I understand the Paragon was a female wild caught - not big enough to breed yet - so if it's gone then I would guess that it's gone. We will probably see some other "wild caught" paragons showing up in the next few years if it is genetic. They'll probably name them something else tho - unless they are completely stupid.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.2 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

I think there is somthing going on.

A zoo very close to my house had about 6 snakes stolen overnight. {close to halloween} Its called Trengebo zoo.{sp}
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CKA

1.0.0 ball python> sphyke

This is simply awful... who would have ever thought that someone in the ball python community could perpetrate such a dastardly deed. You know, there are times like this that we should all pull together as a community.... I would like to propose that a reward be offered for the return of such valuable animals..... Maybe we could set up some kind of a trust fund where people could pledge money to be offered as a reward for information leading to the arrest of the despicable evildoers responsible for this most heinous crime..... We could set up a web page with the names and amounts pledged of all the good people who just want to see justice done...... What do you all think?

VOT

Now i know who the VOT is....lol

So who am I Karl? write to me, the E-mail link works....... BTW how are them Majesticks workin out for ya.......???

Thought for the day......
Is it possible to keep a stiff upper lip while your cellmate is braiding your hair???????

VOT