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GTPs - TEMPERMENT!!!

toddg Nov 09, 2005 09:15 AM

Hello everyone!

I have been a herper for about fifteen years and GTP's have always intrigued me. I have kept BPs mostly, but my carpet has me reconsidering which direction to take the hobby. I often read about the aggressive nature of GTPs and want to know how true this is. This is important because I have a 5 year old daughter who loves to "help". Is behavioral problems locale specific or across the board? Also, please provide links for husbandry and breeders.

For those that have small breeding projects, do you have a hard time selling the hatchlings? My goal is to have the hobby pay for itself.

Any info will be most appreciated and will help me decide whether or not to pursue keeping GTPs.

TIA,
Todd G.

Replies (8)

jungledancer Nov 09, 2005 06:08 PM

http://pub28.ezboard.com/bchondroforum
http://p219.ezboard.com/fmoreliaviridisfrm1

Those are links to gtp forums that have so much to offer to new people starting out with these great animals. Check out the breeder links at both of them for some of the best information available, bar none!!

The chondro disposition is brought up often and one of my own personal "issues" has been to dispel the myth that these are horrible, mean snakes. There are a few generalities that can be made about locale types. There is always an exception to the rule.... biaks=naughtiest reputation across the board for sure! But, they don't have a monopoly on tempest either!!

Generally, the younger they are the more snappy they are, BUT, in my experience with approximately 40 gtps, if you are respectful of their space, don't make any sudden moves, use removable perches it is quite possible to own several of these animals without ever being bit! I have many that I trust my young granddaughter with so believe they can be just as "tame" as a corn or ball depending on the circumstances. It's pretty easy to find very nice dispositioned yearlings. By the time they are that age you can usually tell if they will settle down.

As to the breeding/monetary issue? I've only got one clutch of gtp babies on the ground and my hope is like yours... not to make money, just to help me afford this obsession!!! I believe that the prices are going to become more affordable as more small time breeders start having more and more success. I think it is important as gtp breeders to breed for both locale types and designer. I'd really like to believe if you breed well and get the babies started nicely that there will always be a market for nice healthy, cbb chondros of all locale types.

timrash Nov 09, 2005 08:04 PM

Nasty little animals stay far far away!!!!!

So I can buy them all.

Hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!

Tim Rash
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Tim Rash
www.nocturnal-creations.com

MegF Nov 09, 2005 08:21 PM

Mine too! She's about as viscious as a corn....which means, not at all. I would agree with the last post to get a yearling if possible so that you'll know what the temperament is like. Babies up to a year are not held much as they are quite delicate. Biaks seem to have a well deserved reputation for being snappy, although there are exceptions to all rules of course!Mainlands are usually thought of to be calmer. Sorongs and Jayas etc.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

bacon79 Nov 09, 2005 09:44 PM

I would like to disagree I have a young Biak and she has a very good temp so far. Yes she has tried to bite me but as soon as she knows that she cant eat me she settles right down. I am a ferm beleaver that you have to work with them. I take mine out once a week so she gets use to me and she is starting to release her perch when I give her a little push. Just make sure you wait a few days after feeding them to spend a some one on one time.

MegF Nov 09, 2005 10:07 PM

I did say that there are exceptions to every rule. However, you said yours bites and then settles down. Mine has never offered to bite, unless I stick something in her cage at night. If I turn on the light though, I could easily put my hand in there and never have her bite me. That's what I consider tame.I've even helped her shed when she was having trouble at 10 at night with just a flashlight on. She never tried to bite then either, just sniffed my fingers and let me help her work the shed off as she crawled.
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

timrash Nov 10, 2005 12:25 AM

Nasty Nasty Biaks!!!!

My, my, my Biak hits me so hard
Makes me say "Oh my Lord"
Thank you for blessing me
With a mind to rhyme and two hype feet
It feels good, when you know you're down
A super dope homeboy from the Biaktown
And I'm known as such
And this is a beat, uh, you can't touch
You Can't Touch This!!!!Uh, O Uh, O Uh, O Uh, O Uh, O
STOP It's Biak Time!!!

My mind is Crazy at night!!!My Biak Bit The Hammer!!!!Ended His Career!!!! It's A Biak You Can't Beat!!!

Hahahahaha, Tim Rash
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Tim Rash
www.nocturnal-creations.com

MegF Nov 10, 2005 07:15 PM

You been using that crack again?????
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

toddg Nov 10, 2005 09:52 AM

I wanted to thank everyone for your $0.02. This really helps.

BTW, Tim, you are nuts!

Love the MCBiak song - LMAO!!!

Todd

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