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help! what would make the best Hybrids ?

jimfmcdonald Nov 11, 2005 05:47 PM

ok heres what I have to work with..
2.1 Gray banded kings
1.1 sinaloan milks
1.1 snow corns
1.0 albino corn
1.1 lavander lemon albino cal kings
1.0 albino cal king
0.1 albino prarie king
1.0 durango mountain king

so what ones would you put together to make the coolest looking hybrids? or do I need some other as well? any help would be great. thanks.

JIM

Replies (16)

adamjeffery Nov 12, 2005 12:36 PM

if i were you i would cross your male snow with a female sinaloan and your male sinaloan with your female snow. this way you will ahve cool babies and with your keepbacks you can produce non related f2 generations with some cool babies that might be all sorts of diff colors (anery,amel, snow,and norm)
though im not sure if the corns color genes would show in the f2 within a hybrid

unusual1 Nov 12, 2005 04:08 PM

2.1 Gray banded kings
1.1 sinaloan milks
1.1 snow corns
1.0 albino corn
1.1 lavander lemon albino cal kings
1.0 albino cal king
0.1 albino prarie king
1.0 durango mountain king

Males on their own don't have much success, so cal king and durango are out.It's most unlikey to work without the sent of their own kind.

In some cases I find the female also needs the sent of it's own male to be ready to breed, so I think that counts out your prarie king.

So I'd go for sinaloan to snow corn, male snow corn to female milk for color and morph factor.

jimfmcdonald Nov 12, 2005 06:40 PM

You say my male cal king is out due to no female cal king? so does my lavander lemon albino cal king female smell different then a normal albino cal king female? or did you just miss that one? I would realy like to use my albino cal king, he is really cool looking. heres his pic.

unusual1 Nov 13, 2005 06:23 PM

Oh, yes I missed that one.

Luis Nov 22, 2005 03:27 PM

Thats a spectacular looking snake intense colors for albino. though this is hybrid forum it would be great to get pure offsprings from him but some corn hybrids would be very interesting to.

stinkypinky Nov 12, 2005 05:43 PM

>>ok heres what I have to work with..
>>2.1 Gray banded kings
>>1.1 sinaloan milks
>>1.1 snow corns
>>1.0 albino corn
>>1.1 lavander lemon albino cal kings
>>1.0 albino cal king
>>0.1 albino prarie king
>>1.0 durango mountain king
>>

>>JIM

Hi Jim
my idea is a bit different, i suggest to use your lavander lemon albino cal king to a female grey band which should produce some nice offspring, grow the sibs (Power Feed for 18 months)with any luck they should be ready to mate,then mate some females to your male snow corn to craze the patterns and whip the colour up. you should end up with some pretty neat sibs.

Good Luck..
Paul..

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jimfmcdonald Nov 12, 2005 06:53 PM

>>ok heres what I have to work with..
>>2.1 Gray banded kings
>>1.1 sinaloan milks
>>1.1 snow corns
>>1.0 albino corn
>>1.1 lavander lemon albino cal kings
>>1.0 albino cal king
>>0.1 albino prarie king
>>1.0 durango mountain king

I was thinking maybe..

1)Sinaloan milk to a gray bended king.

2)snow corn to a gray banded king.

3)albino cal king to the prarie king.

and I might but a female Mandarin rat to cross with the albino cal king or one of the others. and a Coxi (bamboo rat) to cross with some of them as well.

let me know what you think about those crosses?
and if you can think of some other snakes I should buy to mix in there as well. thanks.

JIM

stinkypinky Nov 12, 2005 07:20 PM

those Mixes would work but really they are done on a very regular basis.

But your idea with the female Mandarin rat to cross with the albino cal king would get things kicking. you could bring the bamboo into play also,make a project out of it.

Something like.
1. female Mandarin rat to a gray banded king.

2. Male snow corn to a female gray banded king.

3. Male Mandarin rat to female albino cal king

4. female bamboo rat to male lavander lemon albino cal king

5. female lavander lemon albino cal king to male Grey banded king

6. male bamboo rat to female snow corn

Now there is a lovely little project.

Paul..
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Pinky's taste nice,only if there fresh..

unusual1 Nov 13, 2005 06:29 PM

Apart from number 5 I would be shocked if any of those worked out.

stinkypinky Nov 14, 2005 10:22 AM

>>Apart from number 5 I would be shocked if any of those worked out.

Hi Ya

O No i really hate a good debate lol!

I was just wondering why you would say (Apart from number 5 I would be shocked if any of those worked out) When almost all hybrid attemps are really just trial and error, even now after many years of hybridizing the king and corns to produce jungles, you can still put a pure corn with a pure king and just get infertile eggs. and i would have thought that the first attemps at hybrid jungles were a shock when they worked out.
All the snakes in that list arnt really that far removed so i dont really see what the problem could be, appart from maybe some infertile eggs but you can still get that with commonly bred hybrids anyway.

Just look at these photos.
Now i would say that is a shock mateing, but to be honest i wouldnt be suprized if there are fertile eggs from the pairing.

WHATCH OUT FOR THE GIANT BALLS.......

Paul..

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Pinky's taste nice,only if there fresh..

unusual1 Nov 15, 2005 01:45 PM

Just my opinion, but these snakes are more different than you would first think.They are from a totally different part of the world, their needs in terms of temp and humidity make them far more apart than any of the westen rat snakes and make them less compatable and in my eyes less likely to produce fertile eggs.
Pics of the pythons are amazing.

HighEndHerpsInc Nov 16, 2005 08:54 AM

This is an albino african rock and burmese python hybrid. It's parents and grandparents are from two seperate continents. Afrock from Africa and the burmese from Asia. I personally think that the ball/burm project can and will show success and actually have some of my own projects in the works. We also have triple hybrid projects currently in the works. We have had tiger het albino to hybrid rock/burm het albino/laby most recent. We hope to soon produce the world's first retic/rock/burm triple het laby and both albino genes and with the co-dom tiger super tiger trait. Soon after that we will produce the world's first albino triple hybrids. These should be out of this world.

Our Website!

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mci Nov 24, 2005 10:05 PM

Where they're from and what their humidity requirements are have little or nothing to do with their potential genetic compatibility. Tigers and lions are from the same areas and readily reproduce in captivity.

erobinson Nov 15, 2005 02:50 PM

I'm curious. How big is the granite burm and the ball python? And which one is the male and which is the female? And I hope you keep notes and take plenty of pics if it comes through. Burmese pythons and african rocks have been crossed before, balls and burms might work too. My only concern would be the size difference and the possiblity of fighting or one eating the other. I wish you luck, and hope it works out. And I would also like to know the weight of the animals, please.

unusual1 Nov 15, 2005 03:42 PM

Ball is the male, they both look adult size to me.

Randall_Turner Nov 16, 2005 06:29 PM

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