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any ever seen a monitor sneeze????? is it a bad thing?

paine Nov 15, 2005 03:57 PM

......... my young argus cross just did it a few times and I figured I would check on here with the people who own monitors. So if you could let me know if its normal. thanks.
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

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paine Nov 18, 2005 04:54 AM

...... i have seen alot of simple questions from people (like this one here) and they just get ignored. Im sure alot of you have the answer to my question.. but yet no one responds... why?
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

tectovaranus Nov 18, 2005 10:20 AM

Maybe you should do some of your own research,i.e reading,visiting breeders/keepers,herp clubs etc.
You ask a lot of questions that the answers to are easily available,possibly this is why nobody responds to your posts.
Get a copy of "monitors: The biology of Varanid Lizards" by King and Green and Daniel Bennets book "Monitor Lizards" as well as "Varanoid Lizards" by Pianka and King and you will have the answers to most of your basic questions.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Ben

paine Nov 18, 2005 09:27 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt that what sites like this are for?.... and to tell you the truth half of what I ask I have looked for on sites and all over the internet. I dont want to type long questions for no reason. And if you ask on here, your asking if anyone has had the same problems with their animals and how they delt with them.... But thats ok, I guess when someone who goes and gets an animal that they dont know how to care for.. and then comes to this site for help, they wont get any help and maybe even kill the animal in the end. Oh but ya everyone on here will say, 'Then you shouldnt have it'... but he still does have it and its too late... and ya they say it sucks to hear about mis treated reptiles but yet when someone asks a simple question on this site what do they get... some crap about asking a stupid question when really all they are doing is looking for help on something that they dont know... ok i could keep talking but i think you can get the point.
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

tectovaranus Nov 19, 2005 11:12 AM

"correct me if I'm wrong, but thats what sites like this are for"
Sites like this are for the exchange of information not for experienced keepers to hold the hands of newbies.
What gives Pain? Obdviously you have found the internet to be less than helpfull,so why not try the sources I provided?
The King and Green text I refered to goes into great detail expaining the physiology of Varanids,including their nasal morphology.
Do you expect everybody else to do your homework for you?
Ben

paine Nov 19, 2005 11:18 AM

No man, your right, This site isnt for people who have to help other but for people who choose to help others... and learn and hear things from other people interested in the same things... reptiles. So many people will talk about poor conditions of reptile on pet stores or at home. You will get lots of replys if you post about somthing and its a bad thing that you already did and it hurt the animal. But when you ask for peoples opinions and help before somthing is wrong then you get nothing. Books are good, but alot of books are old and out dated and dont even have the correct names for the herps now days. Its mostly this site there are a few others that are alot of help its just they dont know much about monitors thats all. See this stupid topic is being talked about but yet still not help with questions asked in the start.
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

tectovaranus Nov 19, 2005 11:45 AM

You must not be reading my posts.
the information I offered is very current,written by the best and brightest in the field,and deals with the subject of your original post.
What more do you want?
Did you even check these recources before you condemed them?
Ben

odatriad Nov 19, 2005 06:41 PM

As Ben has already pointed out, simple questions like these have been asked and addressed many times in the 7 year history of this forum; you just have to look.

Here are some sneezing-related threads which I was able to find after 2 minutes of searching through the archives on this website via the "search" option..

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=668241,668241&key=2004
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=64547,65264&key=2003
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=561350,561350&key=2004
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=588476,588540&key=2004

The information is there, you just have to put some effort into finding it- as opposed to relying on other people to always help you-regardless of whether or not it is a common, recurring question that people are sick and tired of answering for the fiftieth time.

Don't get into having the selfish attitude where if your animal dies, you go and blame the forum participants for its death because of their failure to respond to your questions.. It is your animal, and your responsibility for finding answers to the questions and problems that face you. Relying 100% on other people to tell you what to do or how to think is not the way to learn, nor keep reptiles.. Apply yourself, as Ben has pointed out in the last three or so responses..

I would also look into the books that Ben has suggested, as they are among the best literature around concerning Varanid biology. Looking to Reptiles Magazine and online Reptile Keeping Forums will not get you far in understanding anything about your animal/s.

Good luck, and once again, apply yourself.. As for this website.. I take it you know how to use google; using the search option on this website is no different..
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paine Nov 20, 2005 11:27 AM

Ha, First of all, im not going to blame anyone for anything that happens to my animals. and second all I am trying to get across is that I just wanted to get your opinions and whats going on with him... thanks for the info on the searching... I dont know why I couldn't get that to work.
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

FR Nov 20, 2005 10:52 AM

These sites are to share. Not give or take, to share.

It seems Paine really just wants to talk about his monitors, but does not know how, so he makes up problems. He would be better off just sharing, showing pics, etc. Then constantly making his monitors someone elses problem to fix.

Paine, you should not try to fix possible medical problems over the internet, vets are for that. If you want to talk about monitors, then just talk about your monitors. It would be very interesting to see monitors thru the eyes of a beginer. How wonderful that must be. FR

paine Nov 20, 2005 11:23 AM

FR... yes your right mostly your very right... Ya I do want to talk about them. I also do like others views on if what is going on with them are problems enough. Sometimes I think coming on here and talking to people like you who have had years and years of time with monitors is somewhat better then going to a vet. Yes my vet knows what he is talking about but he might not know somthing you do. And yes I understand what you mean, Dont just talk about problems!. ha well to start that... this argus is growing so fast its hard to keep track.
Pictures of my Reptiles.

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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

FR Nov 20, 2005 10:39 AM

Have you ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf? Well that boy is you. You have cried wolf to many times.

So now if you have a real problem, we cannot tell if its real or not. So sir, stop crying wolf and you may get some help. FR

paine Nov 20, 2005 11:33 AM

that makes sense... but the thing is, Thats what im asking, is the sound I am hearing a problem? The best way I can discribe it is a coughing or sneezing sound. I guess im sorry for asking, I guess next time just call the vet or a different site. And yes, I do realize now that its not fun for the fourm to have a lot of old questions asked over an over and I wont let that happen again, sorry for that!!
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

orinoco Nov 21, 2005 11:57 PM

I am just curious-how old are you, Paine? If it is over 15, I will be shocked. You certainly present yourself as one 'lil kid in the middle of one major tantrum...

paine Nov 22, 2005 08:17 PM

buddy, I am 21, and since my whole life isnt siting on here picking fights with people I guess I am just not used to it yet. OH ya, was there a point to you posting that? Are we not supose to be talking about monitors on this forum?
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

orinoco Nov 23, 2005 02:40 PM

and the tantrum continues....

do mommy and daddy know that you are playing on their computer?
Dont you have some cartoons to watch?

robyn@ProExotics Nov 19, 2005 12:01 PM

aer you SURE we are just a bunch of jerks that won't help? are you SURE you are asking a good question? do we HAVE to hand hold every single person that asks a bad question? that would take all day every day.

following up to your own post by yelling at the forum in all caps isn't exactly symphathetic to your cause.

as for the question itself. sneezing- yes, it's bad. no, it's not. well, maybe.

without any context, simply asked as you typed it, there is no simple answer. there are many variables. if you read some of those books, or searched the forum, you would have your own answer.

you can't just come one an DEMAND that someone answer your poorly phrased question. anyone that says either yes or no is giving poor advice, there is no way to know with the info given. so folks just ignore it and move on. don't take it personal, and don't throw a fit. now your attitude (or perceived attitude) makes folks even LESS interested in answering your future questions, and that sucks.
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Pro Exotics Reptiles

paine Nov 19, 2005 05:28 PM

No its not really my question... its just all the questions on here that dont get answerd. And yes I did serch the fourm and unless im missing somthing, the search came up with nothing.

And ya sorry about sounding like every stupid question has to be answerd because ya people do ask stupid questions and im sure more you guys that are on here more get sick of it. At least you answerd the question some what and thanks for that. All that I wanted to know is if he has a respitory infection or maybe he could just be clearing water out of his nose or mouth. He doesnt do it much I only saw him do it a few times. And sorry for over reacting with the "big letter" but Im sure i dont realize how many questions like this get posted. I know it must suck to answer things over and over.
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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor
0.0.1 ArgusXflavi Cross monitor
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

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