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Can frogs and salamanders co-exist peacefully? I'd like to get some tree frogs (green, gold bell, or white-lip) and also, if it's not a bad idea, maybe a salamander or two. However, I can't seem to find much information on if the species can co-exist. I was at my local reptile store today, but there were 1000 screaming kids there for a lizard party, so I didn't hang out there long.
If I got a salamander, it would most likely be a yellow spotted, because they're fairly inexpensive, have a wide range of habitat, and they're the only ones I can find right now
Thanks for any help!

whats the scientific name for the yellow spotted salamander? im not sure which sally you are talking about. with most animals, the rule is "if it fits in my mouth, its food". so a larger treefrog may not be a good idea with a salamander. the first time the treefrog sees it out in the open, he is going to try and eat him.

Many kinds of frogs and salamanders can live together.

I have never heard of a yellow-spotted salamander. I think you are talking about a spoted salamander (Ambystoma maculatum), or a fire salamander (Salamandra salamandra). These are both terrestrial salamanders. The green treefrog and the white-lipped treefrog are arboreal. The golden bell is mostly semiaquatic. Any of the frogs can live peacefully with any of the salamanders you mentioned, but you have to be sure to meet the needs of both species. Most importantly, proper habitats- terrestrial for the salamander, arboreal for the treefrogs, and also an aquatic part if you decide to go with the golden bell. I would suggest not putting in the golden bell frog. That would require setting up a land and water area which means more required space, more difficult maintainance, and more safety concerns for the occupants.

what is the sientific name of a golden bell, or a link to where i can see a pic, im not sure what it is.

http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/species/bell.html for the bell frog.

The spotted is the common, spotted salamander. It has.. yellow spots
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/ambymacu.htm

I'm thinking white-lipped until it's salamander season, by then they should be big enough that they and the salamanders can be friends and not mutual preys.

It's a general rule from what I understood that you shouldn't mix any species of amphibians due to the different toxins in their skin. Apparently they can kill each other - especially salamanders because they tend to be VERY toxic. Just a cautionarey note
Chad

I'm with Chad on this. I would ONLY risk it if I was ready to get rid of both my frog and my salamander and waste the money I spent on them. Some say you can keep frogs and sals together, but why risk it?

for many more good reasons why:
http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/Mixing_disasters.shtml

As far as the mixing goes.. I've now read 3 articles for and 3 articles against.... sigh.
It would probably be asking too much for my sources to agree

the contradictions arent really contradicting. sometimes it works. sometimes it doesnt. some people dont set up the tank right for everyone. others put 2 together that are way too different in size. those are the ones where it doesnt work out. not all amphibians are toxic. not all are constantly releasing it, they hold it in and excrete it onto their skin when threatened by a predator. if you do some good reasearch and figure out what 2 or 3 species you want to do and how to set up their enclosure to meet all their needs and help them not be piled up on eachother, you will greatly increase your chances of success.

reptileguy gives very good advice in previous post. Go with that.

Umm, spotted salamanders actually get pretty big, around nine inches I'm pretty sure. So you need to make sure the frog you have is big enough not to get eaten. The salamanders that I've had ate pretty much anything that moved...